[Off Topic] web development job - URGENT

[Effie Mouzeli]

On Wed, 14 Sep 2005, Costas Barakitis wrote:

> Se megalh etairia anaferomai. Apla epeidh apotelei pagia taktikh edw mesa na 
> mhn anaferomaste se ISP's epeidh kata kairous mas exoun eksyphrethsei, den 
> eipa onoma. H eksyphrethsh pantws den einai 6ema developers, apla exoun 
> vardies me "texnikous" gia na sou lynoun provlhmata. To sygkekrimeno den 6a 
> eprepe na sou kanei entypwsh giati einai aytonohto.

Me kalupse o giwrgos.


> Ta didaktorika mporei na einai wraia gia na ta kaneis korniza kai na 
> xairontai kai oi dikoi sou pou den phgan xamenoi oi kopoi tous, alla stis 
> etairies aytos pou fernei pelates exei th megalyterh spoudaiothta. Ki epeidh 
> o antilogos edw einai pws o pwlhths poulaei kati pou exeis ftiaksei esy, h 
> apanthsh einai pws eksairoumenhs ths periptwshs na ftiakseis phgadi sthn 
> erhmo se oles tis alles periptwseis den exei shmasia poso kalo einai ayto pou 
> ftiaxneis alla poso kala mporeis na to poulhseis. OK, mporei ola ayta na sou 
> akougontai kynika alla that's life. Den kserw an einai swsta 'h oxi alla 
> sigoura isxyoun.

Auto prwton einai prosvlhtiko gia tous didaktorikous pou oi perissoteroi
douleuoun arketa kai paragoun ergo. To didaktoriko pera apo otidhpote
allo einai kai ereuna.
Kalo to marketing kai ta lalakia, alla den exei nohma na poulas
aera kopanisto se omorfo perituligma. Arga h grhgora tha broune
to periexomeno. To na poulaei h etairia mou kati polu omorfo pou
eite to exw hmiteles, eite den mporw na to uposthriksw kai na to
anaptuksw, kanei zhmia sthn idia.

>
>> /me stelnei biografiko me fwtografia sto zara gia pwlhtria
>
> Den 6a vgaleis lefta. Me ta lefta pou trwei o Zaras sth diafhmish kai to usp 
> pou exei den yparxei logos na plhrwnei megalous mis6ous se pwlhtes.

Se plhroforw oti oi pwlitries se poluethnikes tetoiou tupou
pairnoun polu kala lefta, gia thn douleia pou kanoun.

>> /me stelnei biogtafiko me fwtografia gia barwoman
>
> An eisai arketa omorfh gia na pas gia barwoman tote kalo einai na ksereis pws 
> osa didaktorika ki an exeis o ekastote manager to mono pou 6a ton endiaferei 
> einai pote 6a se pidiksei. It's a man's world out there.

Ok, eutuxws den mou exei sumbei kati tetoio, oute pisteuw oti
einai pia toso sunh8usmeno fainomeno. Dhladh epeidh eimai kopela
prepei na parw apofash oti gia na vrw douleia prepei na perasw
apo to krebbati tou kathenos, enw ean hmoun antras tha metrousan
ta antikeimenika mou prosonta. YEAH RIGHT.
  Lupamai, it's not a man's world out there anymore.

>> /me stelnei biografiko me fwtografia gia grammateas

> Ayto mporei kai na sou doulepsei, eidika de an pas gia executive gramateas 6a 
> ftaseis kapoia stigmh na vgazeis poly perissotera apo ton IT manager.

Sometimes true.

>
> Entelws proswpika den vlepw kanena logo giati prepei sto sygkekrimeno case na 
> epizhsoun oi mikroi IPS's. To proion einai ena kai to ayto, den yparxei logos 
> na exoume 50 etairies na to poulane. Oi mikroi isp's an 6eloun na epizhsoun 
> prepei na sygxwneytoun me tous megalous.

Auto einai mia polu megalh suzhthsh, perissotero off topic apo ta 
prohgoumena. Auto odhgei sto monopwleio sxedon. Paradeigma, oso eixe o ote 
to monopwleio stis thlepikoinwnies oloi fwnazame na stamatisei kai
griniazame ktl ktl ktl. Twra dhladh pou uparxoun  ena swro mikroteroi
enallaktikoi, les na sugxwneutoun me tous megalous. Opote eimaste
back to square one.

> Wraia ola ayta alla ti sxesh exoun me to an esy ws developer den perneis osa 
> nomizeis pws 6a eprepe na perneis?

Den milaw gia to posa pairnw egw, alla gia to pws tha ginoun pio
antagwnistikes oi mikres etairies.

>
>> Eimai uper twn genikwn gnwsewn, afou etsi kai alliws sto katw katw
>> sto fusiko eimai kai oxi sthn plhroforiki .
>> Omws ean px pote phgaina na didaksw eite se fronthstrio
>> eite se sxoleio, den tha elega "kserw kai xhmeia", kai tha
>> anaferomoun stis 2 xhmeies pou perasa sto prwto etos me 6
>> kai auto epeidh antegrapsa apo ton mprosta. Ta paidakia den mou
>> ftaine se tipota na meinoun amorfwta
>> ek'aitias mou. 
>
> H morfwsh den exei se tipota na kanei *pleon* me to ti ma6aineis sta sxoleia. 
> Alla gia thn ygrasia 6a milhsoume allh fora.

Htane paradeigma, alla to phres tois metritois. Ennow oti otan eimai px
web designer (me ptuxio)
kai dhlwnw oti eimai Web designer, kai web developer, kai
sysadmin kai network admin, epeidh apo ta upoloipa 3 diabasa 2-3
pragmata, den paei na pei oti tha mporesw na ta kanw kai swsta. To idio
isxuei kai sthn periptwsh pou lew stous ergodotes mou "eimai
web designer" kai na mou lene "nai ok, mporeis omws na mas
kaneis kai to dns etsi?".

>> Kalo na kseroume ligo apo ola, alla na uparxei kai kapoia
>> eksidikeush, thn opoia tha poulame san eidikothta mas.
>> H hmimatheia einai xeiroterh apo thn amatheia, kai se
>> production enviroment einai unacceptable.
>
> Wraia ola ayta alla to arxiko case htan oi xamhloi mis6oi pou eipes pws 
> pairnoun kapoioi developers kai gia na eimai eilikrinhs apo kapoio shmeio kai 
> meta se exasa.

Kai pali den milaw gia ta lefta (ekei skalwses). Sthn hmimatheia 
anaferthika giati einai polloi autoi pou nomizoun oti kseroun, enw
apla "gnwrizoun". Apla autous pou "poulane" (me thn kalh ennoia) ton
eauto tous ws oles oi parapanw 4 eidikothtes se ena, alla kai akoma 
xeirotera autous pou tous proslambanoun h' tous apozhtane. Den
ginetai na  eimaste kaloi se ola, kapou tha usteroume.

Den xreiazetai na ampelofilosofisoume pereterw, apla oso euthunontai
oi ergodotes, allo toso euthunomaste kai emeis gia thn katastash
pou epikratei oso anafora kai tous misthous alla kai ton forto ergasias.
Den nomizw oti einai too much to ask na douleuw me aksioprepeia
se ena periballon pou sebontai thn douleia mou, kai emena, kai me 
plhrwnoun analogws. Nai to kserw, panta uparxei kai to ekswteriko,
ekei mas vlepw siga siga.


-effie

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Effie Mouzeli
Physics Dept.
University of Patras