[Ελαφρώς OT] Ξενικές λέξεις και γένη

Neon Absentius absent at sdf.lonestar.org
Mon Oct 3 15:47:06 EEST 2005


On Mon, Oct 03, 2005 at 02:57:31PM +0300, Theo Vassiliadis wrote:
> O idios o Triantafyllidhs (pou egrapse th grammatikh pou didaxthkame sto
> sxoleio), elege oti den mporei kapoios na 8ewrhsei la8os ton tropo pou
> milaei o laos. Yparxoun profanws tropoi ekfrashs diaforetikoi apo aytous pou
> anaferontai sta vivlia, alla exoun ka8ierw8ei se perioxes ths xwras. Px. "se
> lew" pou lene sth voreia ellada.
> Epivalletai omws h diakrish anamesa stis:
> A. idiomorfies enos glwssikou idiwmatos pou omileitai se kapoia perioxh, apo
> kapoia merida tou laou kai profanws einai katanohtes apo ena eyrytero
> koinwniko synolo
> kai
> B. tis mpourdes pou mporei na leei o ka8enas kai einai akatalhptes gia to
> 100% - 1 tou plh8ysmou.
> 
> Synopsizontas, den mporw na lew oti mou kaylwsei kai na epimenw oti einai
> swsto, epeidh to eipa egw. Otan kataferw na me katalavainoyn perissoteroi
> apo 1 (enan) an8rwpoi, *isws* na 8ewrh8ei oti milaw kapoia dialekto me
> idiaitera glwssika xarakthristika (grammatikh, syntaktiko, or8ografia klp.)
> 

Συμφωνώ.

Δεν νομίζω όμως ότι υπάρχει σαφής διάκριση μεταξύ ιδιώματος,
διαλέκτου και γλώσσας.  Αυτό όμως είναι άλλη κουβέντα.

-- 
Everyone is so overwhelmed by the hospitality. And so many of the
people in the arena here, you know, were underprivileged anyway, so
this--this (she chuckles slightly) is working very well for them.
     -- Barbara Bush, about the refugees from New Orleans.




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