http://i18n.kde.org/teams/el/Compose

[Dimitris Kamenopoulos]

gpall at ccf.auth.gr wrote:

> Nai, theloun gr, alla to kde2-mini-howto to kanei el. Akolouthisa tis
> odigies tou kde2-mini-howto, kai paratiro (exo XFREE4.0.3 kai KDE2.1.1):
> 
> 1. to arxeio Compose pou mou esteile o Alex, einai akribos to idio me auto
> pou idi ypirxe ston katalogo /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/iso8859-7
> parempiptontos na anafero oti o katalogos pou anaferei to howto leei
> /usr/X11/lib/X11/locale/iso8859-7 to opoio ypethesa oti einai lathos
> ek-paradromis afou katalogos /usr/X11 den yparxei

oxi den einai. to X11 einai symlink gia to X11R6. Den einai ola ta X11 
ekdosis X11R6, opws den einai ola ta c:\windows windows98, oute ola 
ta libqt.so libqt.so.2.2.4. Sto SuSE yparxei afto to symlink alla kai se 
alles dianomes. Isws na min yparxei sti dikia sou, alla eixa tin 
entypwsi oti einai psilo-standard.

> 
> 2. meta to howto leei na peiraskoume to arxeio
> /usr/X11/lib/X11/locale/compose.dir kai na baloume mesa ti grammi :
> iso8859-7/Compose(:) el_GR.ISO8859-7
> se emena ypirxe akribos auti i grammi (xoris tin parenthesi kai tin
> ano-kato teleia). Kai anaferei to howto oti an exete X4.x na balete tin
> ano-kato teleia. Omos olo to arxeio symbols.dir den exei pouthena stis
> grammes tou ano-kato teleies kai malista pano-pano anaferei :
> # These entries are in the old format (no ':')

Ma akrivws. To "old format" einai to "no ':'", pou pana pei oti 
to kairourio einai me ":" En pasei periptwsei, emena 
eine anamikta, opote mallon prepei na koitas ligo pio 
prosektika (ektos an afto to arxeio to ftiaxnei o packages tis 
dianomis, pou de nomizw). 8a sou synistousa na tin pros8eseis 
kai me :, gia na yparxei kai to kainourio format sto arxeio.
 
> 3. telos sto arxeio X11/xkb/symbols.dir leei na prosthesoume auti ti
> grammi : -dp----- a------- el(basic)
> 
> ego eixa tin antistoixi me "gr" opote to allaksa se "el" (giati omos afou
> oloi lete oti ta XFREE4... theloun gr;;) kai telos-telos allaksa sto
> XFREE86....config to "gr" se "el" kai fysika an egrapsa ellinika sto KDE

Loipon, exoun anafer8ei kai alloi se afto to 8ema, kai mou fainetai oti 
twra, koitazontas sta sources tou kxkb katalava epitelous ti paizei:
-to KDE den pataei ap' ef8eias sto xkb tou X Window gia na 
parei ta symvola apo to pliktrologio, opws nomizame, alla 
sto QT.
-To QT exei to diko tou input encoding, se anti8esi me to X Window pou 
ka8orizei to input encoding tou apo to trexon locale (p.x. an to locale 
einai el_GR "metafrazei" o,ti pliktrologeis se charaktires tou ISO-8859-7). 
Afto einai apo mia apopsi kalo, giati 8a epitrepsei mellontika Unicode 
efarmoges aneksartites tou locale (de 8a xreiazetai na exete locale=el_GR
gia na grafete ellinika, kai se merikes periptwseis de xreiazetai oute 
twra).
Apo mia alli apopsi omws einai skata, giati afti i allagi egine apo to 
2.0.1 sto 2.1 xwris na tekmiriw8ei pou8ena. Proswpika xrisimopoiw 
CVS kai pi8anon na min tin proseksa, na ti 8ewrisa mia "adynamia" tou
unstable kwdika kai na tin agnoisa. Afti einai kai i moni mou dikaiologia.
Gia na ftasoume kai sto provlima: To QT exei default input encoding to 
latin1. Otan patas "setxkbmap el", i eisodos ginetai ksafnika iso-8859-7 
kai to QT den tin katalavainei, me apotelesma na vlepeis erwtimatika 
(stis mi Unicode efarmoges me mi Unicode grammatoseires) i akatalavistika 
stis Unicode efarmoges (opws einai to Alt+F2, kai to KWord.
An exw dikio, tote mia mi-KDE efarmogi me ellinika fonts 8a prepei na 
paizei swsta ellinika, an kai oi KDE efarmoges de doulevoun. An exeis 
Java ry8mismeni na paizei ellinika (nomizw pws to JDK 1.3 paizei ellinika 
by default), boreis na epali8efseis ta grafomena mou, grafontas stin 
efarmogi-paradeigma Notepad. Sto diko mou systima paizei ellinika.

En katakleidi: to teleftaio tmima tou mini-howto, an kai proairetiko gia 
KDE 2.0.1, 8a prepei na 8ewri8ei ypoxrewtiko gia KDE 2.1.x. Ki afto 
giati to kxkb, ektos apo to na trexei "setxkbmap el", allazei kai to 
input encoding tou QT, kai ola paizoun tzami. Ase pou exete kai 
multilingual (oxi apla bilingual) pliktrologio. Fysika borei na 
exw adiko, alla dokimaste, panw apo ena 20lepto de 8a sas parei.
 
Me tin efkairia, 8a i8ela dyo pragmata:
1) Na mou pei kapoios periliptika ti egine me to RAM Maiou, pou 
ap' o,ti katalava apofasise na lysei ola mas ta provlimata ws 
apo mixanis 8eos (elpizw oxi toso ili8ia oso me to "dwro" tou 
Netscape 6.0 otan oi Konqueror kai Mozilla eixan idi 
apogeiw8ei xwris oi syntaktes tou RAM na gnwrizoun tin 
yparksi tous).
Mexri stigmis de borw na to vrw se kanena periptero, afou pira ligo arga 
xabari ti ginotan. 
2) Na aposafinis8ei afti i katastasi me to gr kai to el. Sta sources tou 
kxkb pantws exoume "el", kai nomizw pws oi onomasies akolou8oun 
aftes tou XFree86, opote kai to X Window stin epomeni ekdosi tou 
8a exei mallon "el", alla 8a i8ela na to anaferei safws kapoios pou na 
parakolou8ei to CVS tou XFree86.
3) Perimenw perissotero feedback panw se afto to 8ema. An mou estelne
perissoteros kosmos analytika mail (opws o Simos Karvelas) anti 
na griniazei sti lista (stin opoia den eimai grammenos kai tin 
episkeptomai 1-2 fores tin evdomada) to provlima 8a eixe ly8ei 
nwritera.

P.S: "kremaste mou koudounia ???" :-(

Filika,
Dimitris