Nea apo Stallman

[Sidirourgos Lefteris]

EGID: kai egw afto kanw::PPPPPPPPPPPP

Les kai den to kanoyme kai se ena allo meros ayto ;)


Alla esy, klassikos ellhnas, otan phga na balw kai alla EGID sto paixnidi
(blepe ban to mail toy verigak) to ekanes frw, ara den eisai kalos sto
EGID ::PPPPPP



-----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK-----
Version: 3.1
GM/CS d-- s+: a-- C++ UL+++ P+>+++ L+++ E--- W+ N* o? K- w-- !O !M V-
PS++ PE- Y-- PGP- t- 5 X++ R !tv b++ DI++ D++ G>+++ e++ h*() r(-) y+
------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------

On Fri, 28 Jun 2002, Stavros 0 Sahtouris wrote:

> On Fri, 28 Jun 2002, Papadogiannakis Vagelis wrote:
> >
> > > E3allou, kanenas linuxas kai kanenas BSD-as den 8a
> > > eprepe na uparxoun, den exei nohma o diaxwrismos. Einai san na malwnoun oi
> > > politikoi mhxanikoi gia to an h e8nikh odws A8hnwn-Lamias einai kaluterh
> > > h' oxi apo thn A8hnwn-Korin8ou kai na xwrizontai se Lamia-des kai
> > > Korin8-ades.
> >
> > Stavro, se ektimo kai se sevomai oso kanena bsda ;>
> > Alla, sou 8imizo oti apo tin proti mera pou gnoristikame, toulaxiston ego me
> > esena, nomizo oti eimoun o PROTOS pou dilose kati tetoio. (sto installfest)
>
> Ontws, 8umamai kati sxetiko.
>
> > Se anti8esh fisika me esas pou itan profanhs o logos episkepsis sas. Na mas
> > kanete na noiosoume asxima, na mas meiosete, kai na ``gelasete'' mazi mas
> > (toulaxiston afto deiksate).
>
> Zhtw sugnwmh an fanhke kati tetoio. Auto pou sthn pragmatikothta sumbainei
> oti ws parea (kai oxi BSD-ades) mas aresoun oi zorikes suzhthseis, akoma
> ki an den odhgoun pou8ena. Milw gia emena, ton Bentoura, ton Verigakh kai
> merikous, akoma (alla autoi oi treis, basika, eimaste autoi pou exoume kai
> kapoia sxesh me thn herlug). Malista, kapote eixame onomasei auto to, as
> poume, paixnidi. To eixame pei EGID (Epixeirhmatologia GIa Diaskedash).
> Otan eixa paei sto installfest sto TEI, diapistwsa oti oi omilites
> tsimpousane se proklhseis gia EGID, opote prospa8hsa na "xw8w". Panta gia
> diaskedash kai panta me thn elpida oti den 8a diaskedazw monos mou, alla
> kai oi sunomilites mou h' kai to pi8ano akroathrio.
>
> Pantws, den einai h prwth fora pou h tash gia "sklhrh" kai askoph
> epixeirhmatologia ginetai antikeimeno pare3hghshs kai ermhneuetai ws
> empa8ia, fanatismos kai diafora alla tetoia.
>
> Epipleon, den einai oles oi suzhthseis mou (mas) EGID, orismenes fores
> sthrizoume kai tis kanonikes mas apoyeis.
>
> > Afto to apediksan oi erotiseis pagides pou
> > kanate, kai o tropos pou xamogelousate gematoi efxaristish otan sas legame
> > ``nai, exete dikio''
>
> Otan to legate auto, htan san na xanate th maxh (alla oxi kai ton polemo
> :), den eixame dia8esh na sas meiwsoume, eixame er8ei gia na
> diaskedasoume. Alla den eixame er8ei mono gia na diaskedasoume, alla kai
> gia na doume to fest.
>
> > > Isws, me metro panta, na exei nohma to na uposthrizeis me tetoio tropo
> > > p.x. thn GPL h' thn BSD adeia, me thn ennoia oti mazi me thn adeia erxetai
> > > kai h antistoixh filosofia. To idio, omws to leitourgiko den einia
> > > filosofia, einai ena kataskeuasma mhxanikwn, opws eipa kai se prohgoumeno
> > > mail mou. Se auth thn periptwsh mporoun, fusika, na ginontai flames, alla
> > > 8a einai, anagkasthka, duo eidwn:
> > >
> > > a. Flames me texnikous orous pou 8a apodeiknuoun logika ta epixeirhmata
> > > tous, xwris hard feelings, kai skopo tous 8a exoun na dei3oun pio
> > > kataskeuasma mhxanikwn uperterei kai se poious tomeis.
> >
> > na simpliroso: xoris na ginontai eristika kai xoris na diatiponontai me
> > tetoio tropo oste o ypopsifios apanton na es8anetai ili8ios.
>
> Xmm... Sthn EGID, opws thn kanoume emeis sthn parea (kai oxi emeis oi
> BSD-ades) oi eristikes apoyeis kai h meiwsh ths proswpikothtas tou
> "antipalou" einai 8emita mesa.
>
> > > b. Flames xabale, tou stul twn fwtografiwn pou esteile o verigakhs, opou
> > > ta epixeirhmata 8a 3ekinoun apo ba8ia ampelofilosofika, ews tou epipedou
> > > "emeis exoume kaluteres gkomenes" h' "oi programmatistes mas einai gay kai
> > > epomenws h omada mas exei mageluterh sunoxh, ara apodidei kalutera".
> >
> > den iparxoun omades opos eipes kai noritera. Afto pou isxiei einia oti... re
> > gamoto, exete ena kati, ena tupe, pou fainetai arnitika.
>
> Eimaste etoimologoi, 3eroume na paizoume EGID, oxi na kerdizoume tis
> entupwseis (auto einai allo pragma).
>
> > > > An 8elete na breizete to linux kai na lete gia toys
> > > > linuxades ena karo paparies, ola mia xara, alla oxi sto spiti mas (dhl.
> > > > thn lista mas).
> > >
> > > Ma den brizoume to Linux, ti nohma exei na brizei kaneis to linux, ta
> > > windows, to OS/2 h' opoiodhpote allo kataskeuasma mhxanikwn? Nohma exei,
> > > mono, na brizei kaneis tous idious tous mhxanikous, tis
> > > etairies-organismous pou analambaoun thn prow8hsh, tous xrhstes, klp.
> > > Genika, apodektes twn brisiwn mporoun na einai mono fusika proswpa.
> >
> > katalabaino to skeptiko sou, alla esi 8a pigaines sta grafeia tou ofi `h to
> > anti8eto na les zito o pana8inaikos? (akoma kai an o ofi anikei ston
> > pana8inaiko)? Oxi, kai kat afti ti logiki sas zitame na prosexete ti lete
> > (basika pos to lete)
>
> Pantws, stis perissoteres computeradikes listes ta flames sto stul ths
> EGID einai karasunh8ismena kai kata th gnwmh mou arketa diaskedastika.
>
> > mipos kolas stis lekseis perissotero apo oti prepei?
>
> Nai, einai apo tis agaphmenes mou me8odous.
>
> > ``agapo to linux'',
> > simainei mou aresei ipervolika to linux. Den to enoouse kiriolektika.
>
> To 3erw. O Lefterhs einai klasiko 8uma tetoiwn katastasewn, opote as mhn
> ton epilegei kaneis gia na uposthri3ei tis apoyeis kapoias omades, group,
> otidhpote. ( :) )
>
> > > > Egw nomizw apla sthn
> > > > prospa8eia sas na ginete diaforetikoi se ena synolo (opws einai oi
> > > > linuxades ayths ths listas) arxizete ta fanatika kata toy linux h/kai
> > > > linuxadwn.
> > >
> > > Kanenas fanatismos apo merous mas.
>
> Auth thn entupwsh eixa ki egw, kai gi auto mou ekane entupwsh to mail sou.
>
> > oute apo edo, apla zitame na tirountai kapioa pragmata, na anagnorizontia
> > kapoies aksies.
>
> Den exw katalabei, bebaia, poies einai autes oi a3ies. Ypo8etw oti einai
> perissotero a3ies suzhthseis, agrafoi kanones sunomilias se duktiakes
> listes. Alla auto einai allo zhthma.
>
> > we are the MIB. :> xe, den eimaste tipota parapano apo mia omada topikou
> > xaraktira me koina endiaferonta. apla.
>
> Cool!
>
> > papas at wise.gr
>
> Emailito ergo sum - I email therefore I am
>
> Stavros Sahtouris
>
>