Linux VS BSD

[Stavros 0 Sahtouris (S.0.S.)]

On Monday 27 August 2001 00:56, NTG21 wrote:
>
> > To Linux kai ta BSD leitourgika einai open source kai grafontai, ws epi
> > to pleisto, apo koinothtes programmatistwn. Anoikoun, dhladh, sthn idia
> > kathgoria, se anti8esh, p.x., me to Solaris, to HP-UX h' ta Windows 2000
> > pou dhmiourgountai apo etairies kai kruboun polla pragmata. Epomenws,
> >exoume enan antagwnismo meta3u twn open source leitourgikwn.
>
> Pragma kalo.

E3artatai. Auth th stigmh, nai, einai kalo opws ginetai. Kai ennow oti ta 
open source leitourgika auth th stigmh den prospa8oun na fane to ena to allo 
me emporika tricks, opws kanoun oi etairies (bl. diamaxh Microsoft vs SUN gia 
tous browsers). Anti8eta, to ka8ena anaptusei thn ideologia tou, kai suxna 
daneizetai idees apo alla leitourgika, susthmata, klp., me skopo na 
beltiw8ei. Etsi, uparxoun polles luseis ki oxi mono mia.

Apo ton "antagwnismo" twn open source leitourgikwn meta3u tous epofelountai 
ola t aopenm source leitourgika. Gia pardeigma, polles apo tis gnwstes 
efarmoges Linux anaptux8hkan arxika apo to Berkley (h' opws grafetai), ara 
BSD, kai to Linux, fusika, tis xrhsimopoiei (p.x. to vi). Epishs, erketes 
dhmofileis efarmoges anaptux8hkan gia Linux, alla trexoun kai se alla open 
source leitourgika (sxedon oles oi modernes efarmoges).

To kalo, loipon, einai oti to Linux den 8elei na e3afanhsei ta BSDs, to BeOS, 
to AtheOS klp., oute, fusika, kanena apo auta skopeuei na "ri3ei" to allo. 
Akoma ki peribohth Linux Comunity einai perissotero open source comunity, kai 
oi idees ths aforoun pio polu ton eleu8ero kwdika, para thn epikrathsh enos 
sugkekrimenou leitourgikou.

> <doloma>
> Ma fusika to kalutero leitourgiko einai to Linux. ;-)
> </doloma>

Apedei3e to :)

> Dustuxos stis meres mas einai tis modas na eisai linuxas.
> Etsi exoun arxisei kai eisreoun stin koinotita kai anthropoi oi opoioi
> theloun na to paixoun exupnoi stous filous tous kai vazoun Linux.
> Osoi parakoloutheite kai tis alles listes tou Hellug tha exete dei polles
> fores anthropous pou lene "Afou thelete na proothiste to Linux elate na
> gemisete to kefali mou me gnoseis giati ego variemai".Den to lene akrivos
> etsi vevaia alla auto einai to noima.Kante kati oloi eseis gia na
> epofelitho ego.

Koita, o tupos pou metaphdaei apo Windows se Linux kanei ena terasteio bhma. 
Pernaei apo ena emporiko desktop leitourgiko (?) se ena UNIX, opote pa8ainei 
ena terastio polutismiko shock. 3afnika, xreiazetai na diabasei kapoia 
pragmata, na grayei kapoia pragmata (kapoia scriptaki, p.x.) kai na 
ascolh8ei, kapws, me th domh tou leitourgikou, ekei pou prin apla patouse ena 
double click, ki and en douleue, ekane epanegkatastash. Twra, an kati den 
douleuei, prepei na brei ti ftaiei, kai an to ftia3ei.

H Linux koinothta isxurizetai oti analambanei na parexei uposthri3h stous 
xrhstes. Fusika, einai adunato na parexei plhrh uposthri3h, efoson osoi thn 
parexounto kanoun oikio8elws. To zhthma tou support einai polu shmantiko kai 
kalws h hellug exei kanei kapoia shmantika bhmata proodou ston tomea auto.

> Otan kati einai trendy dustuxos travaei kai kosmo pou den tha itheles.Kosmo
> pou den einai akoma orimos gia tin koinotita.Polloi apo autous isos "valoun
> mualo".Oloi autoi exallou opos kai oi perissoteroi apo emas upurxan window
> losers kai kouvalan akoma lathos nootropoia.

Den einai anagkasthka la8os h nootropia twn windows. H megalh tous epituxia 
kati prepei na mas pei kai auto einai oti o xrhsths 8elei ton upologisth na 
kanei MONO auto pou tou xreiazetai kai na to kanei eukola. An to Linux 
filodo3ei na einai Desktop leitourgiko (pou filodo3ei), prepei na einai 
euxrhsto. Kai, par' oti exoun ginei shmantika bhmata pros auth thn 
kateu8unsh, to Linux den einai, akoma, euxrhsto leitourgiko.

Isws, omws, na mhn 8elei na ginei kai toooos euxrhsto, dioti h euxrhstia 
sunepagetai, kata kapoio tropo, kai duskamyia. Ena euligisto susthma einai  
panta ligo pio duskolo, giati sou dinei,men , th dunatothta na kaneis 
perissotera pragmata, apaitei, omws, apo esena na ta kaneis, kai den ta kanei 
mono tou.

> To BSD akoma den einai tis modas(tora arxizei kai ginetai gia tin akriveia)
> opote akoma oi BSDades san koinotita den antimetopizoun tetoia
> provlimata.Auto aloste einai ena thema gia to opoio mas tin lene.(An kai
> oxi gia polu dustuxos gi' autous.)

Denblepw to BSD na ginetai, pote, toso dhmofiles. E3artata, allwste, gia pio 
BSD milame. P.x., to FreeBSD, pou xrhsimopoiw egw, exei kapoia xarakthrhsthka 
pou to kanoun aprosito ston polu adah xrhsth:

	- Den exei polles distributions, alla mono mia, epomenws, to susthma 
basizetai sto oti o xrhsths 8a to kanei customise manualy opws epi8umei (ara 
prepei na 3erei na to kanei).
	- Den exei kapoio polu user friedly periballon, opws auto, p.x., tou 
Mandrake.
	- H suntriptikh pleioyhfia twn efarmogwn gia xrhstes (office, browsers, 
mailers, media players klp.) einai grammenes gia Linux, kai tis perissoteres 
to FreeBSD tis uposthrizei mesw Linux Compatibility. An einai na trexeis kati 
mesw Linux Compatibility, giati na mhn to trexeis apeu8eias apo Linux?

>
> Pera apo tin plaka vevaia to Linux opos kai to BSD exoun paromoia
> "ideologia" 

Xm... Etsi ki esti. Basika, ta BSDs einai UNICes, enw to Linux einai 
UNIX-like. Yparxei diafora.

> kai einai kai ta duo

Poia duo? To Linuxmporei na einai ena (me pollous kernels), ala ta BSDs einai 
perissotera.

> open-source leitourgika.To kathena exei ta
> pleonektimata kai ta meionektimata tou opos eipe kai o Stauros kai apo kei
> kai pera o kathenas dialegei auto pou tou tairiazei perissotero me vasi to
> ti theorei pio simantiko.

Gegonos!

> Nikos