ti sofi symboyli sas parakalw...

Giorgos Keramidas keramida at ceid.upatras.gr
Thu Nov 18 22:52:20 EET 2004


On 2004-11-18 10:04, Weremoose7 at netscape.net wrote:
> Geia sas, edw kai poly kairw apofeygw na xrisimopoiw proionta tis
> microsoft kai telika apofasisa na brw kai kati enallaktiko gia to
> leitourgiko mou. Genikotera mporw na pw oti kserw arketa pragmata gia
> ypologistes opote mallon tha prosarmostw sxetika eykola me ta linux
> (elpizw...)

Heh.  Ok, kalh einai kai ligh aisiodoksia :-)

> Agorasa loipon ena biblio gia na kserw pou badizw to opoio eixe mesa
> tin dianomi red hat 6 kai kapoies efarmoges. [...]
> - Pisteyete oti i Red Hat 6 einai katallili gia na ksekinisw h na
> katebasw kapoia alli?

Katebase kapoia allh.  Einai toso palio to Redhat 6.X pou an htan deinosayros
tha eixan liwsei akoma kai ta apoli8wmata tou.  Pragmatika, den aksizei na
xaseis kairo mazi tou giati tha basanisteis na sthseis kapoio monterno
programma.  Den uparxei logos.

> - Apo programmata ti iparxei? An mporeite proteinete moy kapoia giati den
> kserw ti kykloforei. Tha xreiastw sigoura ta parakatw:

Yparxoun sxedon ta panta.  To sxedon einai me kapoia epifulaksh, afou einai
ontws kapoia programmata pou trexoun mono se Windows[1], alla auto mallon den
einai *TOSO* dramatiko an den einai polu ekseidikeymeno kai sugkekrimeno auto
pou thes na kaneis.

>     * ena workstation

Den eimai sigouros oti katalaba ti ennoeis otan les "workstation".

Otan sthseis ena monterno Linux distribution to mhxanhma sou einai automatws
"ena UNIX workstation" -- pou shmainei oti mporeis na xrhsimopoihseis ton
ypologisth gia na kaneis tis kathimerines douleies sou.

Auto.  Tipota parapanw.  An ennoeis kati allo, tote den tha htan asxhma na to
grapseis pio analytika.

>     * ena programma antigrafis cd/dvd

Mono ena?  Osa thes.  Apo command line, apo GUI, oti se boleuei...

>     * Ena programma anaparagvgis dvd, video kai moysikis (twra as poume
>       xrisimopoiw to winamp kai to power dvd)

To x11amp einai ftysto to winamp.  Eimai sigouros oti h tromerh tou omoiothta
tha se boh8hsei na "sunh8iseis" pio eykola na to douleueis.  Kai telos pantwn,
den einai asxhmo programma.  Eukolo sth xrhsh, me grafiko periballon.  Idio
look me to winamp... de tha sou leipsei kati, pisteyw.

To PowerDVD omws einai mia plaka, ena anekdoto mprosta sto ``Mplayer''.  Den
lew to programma ths Microsoft gia ta Windows -- to ``Media Player''.  Ennow
to mplayer.  Sketo.  Einai ikano na paiksei TA PANTA.

Exo dei ena filo mou na paizei video apo arxeio pou den eixe oxi katalhksh,
oxi onoma pou na leei ti einai, alla pou den to anagnorize akomh kai to
file(1) utility tou Linux se ti morfh einai.  E loipon, to mplayer to paikse
mia xara ki htan raw VideoCD image :-)

An deis to mplayer na paizei se full screen 1280x1024 se 19" othoni kai apo
piso na ginetai ths mourlhs apo programmata, alla to mplayer na mh masaei
tipota, tha s' aresei ki esena san programma.  Eimai sigouros.

>     * Enan browser (twra xrisimopoiw ton netscape)

Firefox.  Me ta xilia Firefox.

Einai mikro, grhgoro, eukolo sth xrhsh, me polu kales rythmiseis kai apisteyta
bolika defaults sto setup tou, exei ena ekatommurio plugins gia oti pio koufo
fantasteis, kai paizei pantou.  Akoma kai se Windows, ama to sinithiseis ap'
to Linux kai sou leipei.

An thes kati pio 'xlidato' mporeis na baleis akoma kai to Mozilla.  Basika, an
xrhsimopoihseis kapoio monterno Redhat distribution (p.x. to Fedora Core 3),
to Mozilla tha einai hdh sthmeno me to pou tha peis "kalhmera Linux".

>     * Programma epeksergasias eikonas kai fotografias (antistoixo toy
>       photoshop-xreiazomai ena kalo giati to douleyw arketa)

To Gimp 2.X einai arketa kalo.  Den ksero an mporei pleon na theorithei
kalytero apo to Photoshop se kapoia pragmata, giati exo kairo na to
xrhsimopoihso.  Thymamai omws oti prin kati mhnes, pou to dokimasa se ena
Fedora Core RC2 systhma, htan apla panemorfo.  Me ta layers tou, me ta
gradients kai tous customizable gradient editors tou, me ta patterns kai ta
brushes tou, me scripting se duo diaforetikes glosses (gia na allazeis otan
bariesai th mia kai na goustareis), me pampolla etoima filtra, klp. klp.

A nai, kai den trwei me to kalhmera OLH th mnhmh tou ypologisth kathos ki OLO
to swap space tou prin arxisei na paraponietai oti de tou ftanei h mnhmh pou
exeis giati ``pou pas re Karamhtro me 4 GB monaxa''?  Shmantiko auto :-)

>     * ena programma dimiourgias video

Tetoio den ksero an uparxei.  As pei kapoios pou einai pio kalos se video
production me Linux.

> kai genika an exete na mou proteinetai kati pou pisteyete tha mou fanei
> xrisimo please peite mou.

Mhn tromakseis me to posa kainouria pragmata prepei na matheis gia na sthseis
ena KALO systhma Linux.

Entaksei, ena aplo systhma mporei na balei ki h giagia mou, apla topo8etwntas
to CDROM tou Fedora Core 3 sto drive kai patontas "next, next, next, done".
Gia na sthseis omws to Linux me kalo tropo, na rythmiseis ola ta programmata
pou thes, me to styl pou ta thes, me to look & feel, thn taxythta, thn apodosh
kai thn apaithtikothta se phges pou thes esy na exoun, mporei na xreiastei
ligos kairos.

Den trexei tipota.  Ego otan prwtosthsa to Slackware Linux kaaaapote, mesa se
ena brady to esthsa kai to sbhsa peripou 5-6 fores.  Ta pragmata den einai
pleon toso dyskola, alla proetoimasou gia mia sxetikh dyskolia.  Toulaxiston
tis protes meres/bdomades.

> - Mporw na xrisimopoiisw kapoia programmata sta linux (px corel draw, i
> photoshop) i prepei na einai simbata i kati tetoio?

Yparxei to Wine (Windows Emulation), to VmWare pou einai kanoniko virtual PC
mesa sto kanoniko sou PC.  Axreiasta na einai, alla an deis oti de ginetai
alliws mexri kai teleconference mesw Net-Meeting mporei na sthseis :-P




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