ÅÅ, windows, IE, ubuntu,

Apollon Koutlidis apollon at planewalk.net
Mon Dec 21 14:14:22 EET 2009


On 18/12/09 18:07, Christos Ricudis wrote:
> Deite gia paradeigma to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_API kai 
> sygkrinete me ta antistoixa services pou parexei to POSIX (giati apo 
> kei kai pera, to xaos). Texnologies opws COM, DCOM, OLE sta windows, 
> epitrepoun ena eidos dialeitourgikothtas metaksy components efarmogwn 
> pou den synh8izetai sto unix world, enw einai ka8hmerinothta sto 
> windows application development.
ÌÞðùò, ëÝù ìÞðùò åðåéäÞ üôáí ìéëÜìå ãéá Unix / POSIX âñéóêüìáóôå óôç 
óöáßñá ôùí ëåéôïõñãéêþí óõóôçìÜôùí êáé ôá application components äåí 
Ý÷ïõí èÝóç óå áõôü ôï layer; Åßíáé ëßãï áëçôåßá íá ìçí áíáöÝñåéò óå áõôü 
ôï context ôá áíôßóôïé÷á abstractions ôïõ FLOSS êüóìïõ (ð.÷. GTK+ - 
GObject - D-Bus) êáé íá áöÞíåéò ôï åðé÷åßñçìá íá êñÝìåôáé óáí áðü 
ìáñáìÝíï êÜóôáíï (ouch).

> Estw loipon oti egw se mia efarmogh mou, 8elw na kanw parse ena XML 
> document. 8a xrhsimopoihsw to MSXML API, nai h oxi? Kai ean h MS 
> 8ewrei oti to MSXML API einai tmhma tou Internet Explorer, an o 
> xrhsths exei apegkatasthsei ton IE gia na balei sth 8esh tou ton 
> Mozilla, o Mozilla 8a prepei na parexei ena symbato API gia na einai 
> symbatos me thn efarmogh mou, h oxi?
Ç Microsoft åß÷å ôçí åðéëïãÞ íá "êÜíåé ôï êáëü" êáé íá áðåìðëÝîåé ð.÷. 
ôïí WTFXML parser áðü ôïí browser, Ýóôù êáé after the fact - üôáí ãéá 
ðáñÜäåéãìá (ïëïó÷åñþò öáíôáóôéêü, ïðïéáäÞðïôå ïìïéüôçôá ìå ðñáãìáôéêÜ 
ðñüóùðá, ôïðùíýìéá Þ áñêôéêüëåîá åßíáé ôõ÷áßá) óôç Visual F++ v69.85 êáé 
üëåò ôéò áíôßóôïé÷åò õëïðïéÞóåéò ðïõ óôçñßæïíôáé óôï dot-pet / Common 
Fscked Runtime åíóùìÜôùóå ùò standard ëåéôïõñãéêüôçôá ôçí åðéêïéíùíßá 
ìåôáîý åöáñìïãþí ìÝóù BLOAT/WTFXML äçìéïõñãþíôáò de facto dependency ôïõ 
CFR óôïí browser.

Åí ïëßãïéò: Ôï ðñüâëçìá áíáêýðôåé üôáí "h MS 8ewrei oti to MSXML API 
einai tmhma tou Internet Explorer" áíôß íá äéá÷ùñßæåé ôï åí ëüãù API óå 
÷ùñéóôÞ, ÷ùñéóôÜ äéáíåìüìåíç âéâëéïèÞêç. Êáé îÝñåéò ðïëý êáëÜ (üðùò êáé 
ðïëëïß Üëëïé óå áõôÞ ôç ëßóôá) üôé áõôÞ ç íïïôñïðßá óõó÷åôßæåôáé ðïëý 
Ýíôïíôá (r > 0.96) ìå ôï - ïìïëïãïõìÝíùò åëëáôôïýìåíï ðñïóöÜôùò - bloat 
/ instability factor ðïõ áñêåôïß Ý÷ïõí óõíäÝóåé óôç óêÝøç ôïõò ìå ôá 
ëåéôïõñãéêÜ ôçò åí ëüãù åôáéñßáò.

> Kai paei legontas. To zhthma einai POLY pio periploko apo oso fainetai 
> epifaneiaka, kai h Microsoft den exei kai to apolyto adiko[1] pou 
> feretai opws feretai...
>
>
> [1] h pio eygenikh diatypwsh pou mporw na xrhsimopoihsw se mia linux 
> mailing list.
>
Êáé ãéá íá ëÝìå ôá ðñÜãìáôá ìå ô' üíïìÜ ôïõò - ôï áðïôåëåóìáôéêüôåñï 
trolling åßíáé ôï subtle trolling ;-)

Ôï æÞôçìá åßíáé üíôùò ðåñßðëïêï. Êáé ùò åê ôïýôïõ ðñïóöÝñåôáé ãéá èüëùìá 
ôùí õäÜôùí. Êáé îÝñïõìå êáëÜ üôé åßóáé êñõïõëéÜñçò êáé áðïêëåßåôáé íá 
âïõôÞîåéò óôá èïëùìÝíá óôéò 6 ôïõ ÃåíÜñç... /Ï?ä?í ôá?ôá ðñ?ò ðïñèìÝá./

Ìå óýã÷õóåò ðÜëé ÄåõôåñéÜôéêá :-ñ

Á.
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