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V13 wrote:
>   Prosopika, pote den katalaba giati na ginetai ayto to 'spasimo' se diafores 
> gloses. Giati na min yparxei apla kai mono to postgresql.org? An to olo thema 
> exei na kanei apla kia mono me syzitiseis ellhnon, exo thn entyposi pos h 
> unix-admin-gr tha itan kataliloteri lista.
> 


oso afora to giati epile3ame tin dimiourgia tou postgresql.gr 8a i8ela
na pros8eso ta e3is:


To postgresql.org kai to postgresql.gr den kaliptoun tis idies anages,
oute exoun tous idous skopous, ti enoo:
h postgresql ine mia vasi dedomenon i opia apef8inete sinolika se olous
osous exoun anagki apo database (viomixanies, eteries, oganismous,
ekpedeftika idrimata, web sites, developers, fitites, ...)
afto simenei orismena pragamta:
1) aftoi pou exoun anagki den ine sigouro oti 3eroun agklika
   i oti exoun dia8esi na psaxnoun plirofories sta agklika
2) aftoi pou exoun anagi apo database 8eloun na 3eroun an iparxei
   kosmos pou asxolite me aftin tin database kai kataprotimisi na
   iparxei kaikosmos stin perioxi tous
3) ean einai developers h administrator sini8os 8eloun na exoun
   kai prosopiki epafi me an8ropous pou asxolounte me to idio 8ema
4) ean skopevoun na persanoun se aftin tin database 8a i8elan
   na 3eroun an  stin perioxi tous iparxoun kai aloi pou
   tin xrisimopoioun ka8os kai topiki ipostrixi.

oles aftes tis anagkes den mporei na tis kalipsei to postgresql.org
me tin morfi pou exei, gia na mporosei na tis kalipsei 8a prepei
na ala3ei para poli o tropos pou doulevei to site kati pou praktika
8eooro adinaton na epitefx8ei apo tous an8ropous pou afti tin stigmi
dimiourgisan to postgresql.gr

gia paromious logous px oi katikoi tou Portland  (paroti miloun agklika
kai to postgresql.org tous kaliptei arketa kalitera) exoun dimiourgisei
to Portland PostgreSQL Users Group (PDXPUG)

telos i simetoxi sto postgresql.gr den apokliei tin simetoxi sto
postgresql.org.

tora oso afora tin xrisi tis unix-admin-gr:
i xirsi tis 8a itan perioristiki gia diaforous logous:
1) i postgresql den trexei mono se unix/linux
   (an kai den nomizo na tin xrisimopoiei kanis se windows pera
    apo development logous)
2) i sizitisis giro apo tin postgresql den exoun na kanoun mono me to
   administration, aftin tin stimoi oi kirios listes sto org ine giro
   stis 15 kai oi 2 megaliteres listes me paromia kinisi apef8inonte
   i mia sto administration genikos kai i ali sto development genikos,
   sinepos to administration den mporei na 8eori8ei kan o
   epikratesteros logos.
3) aftoi pou endiaferonte gia tin postgresql den ine anageo na
   endiaferonte gia to unix administration genikos.


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