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Giannis Beredimas mperedim at ceid.upatras.gr
Thu Jan 5 19:18:24 EET 2006


Giannis Papaioannou wrote:

> Auto to thread ginete olo kai pio asteio. Perasa apo slackware se 
> debian kai twra se ubuntu. Endiamesa dokimaza kai kana allo distro 
> (redhat, mandrake, suse ktl). H diafora slack me debian htan terastia. 
> Slackware = ena xaos pou prepei na frontizeis na ka8arizeis synexeia. 
> Debian = pio
> organwmeno, apt-get[0].


Ti skata sxesh exei to opoiodhpote package tool me thn "organwsh" den 
katalaba.

Dhladh to Suse, to opoio as dextoume ws ypo8esh ergasias oti einai a8lio 
[0], ama tou baleis APT [1] kai arxizeis na bazeis paketa me "apt-get 
install foo" anti mesw tou Yast ksafnika egine organwmeno kai gamAto?

Eleos an einai etsi to gentoo einai h kalyterh dianomh [2].

> Prosfata eixa kai mia gnwrimia me to fedora, gia to opoio den exw 
> tipota 8etiko na pw, ektos isws apo thn egkatastash pou egine pio 
> eukola apo ta
> synh8h debianized distros. To yum einai paparia. h8ele extra paketo 
> gia to ntfs module kai den ebriske ta ntfs partitions sto disko mou 
> xwris na
> balw xeri sto hal, to opoio einai mia a8lia efeuresh pou sto fedora 
> douleuei akoma pio xalia.


Ontws einai mia paparia, kyriws giati einai panargo, alla oxi epeidh 
8elei extra paketo gia to ntfs (eleos pia ...).

Twra giati de sou douleve to ntfs partition ... e "kapoia mamakia 8a 
ekanes" me to module. H isws na mh ftaiei to module alla einai sxetiko 
me to hal (to opoio I guess ftaiei to Fedora pou einai a8lio to package, 
alla an exei problhma to kdesu sto Kubuntu den einai problhma tou 
Kubuntu alla tou KDE <== malakies sto tetragwno dhladh, mpas kai 
peistoume oti to [A-Z]Ubuntu einai "kalosthmeno").

Mia kai eipame NTFS ta Xristougenna epaiksa ligo me to laptop tou mikrou 
aderfou mou, pou eixe balei Ubuntu se 2o partition. To kalosthmeno 
Ubuntu loipon ekane mount to NTFS partition me dikaiwmata "dr-x------ 
root root", opote kai htan prospelasimo mono apo root processes (polyyy 
bolikoooo!). Fysika proste8hke h katallhlh eggrafh sto "/etc/fstab" alla 
apo ena "Linux for human beings" 8a perimena kati perissotero.

Epishs to "kalosthmeno" Ubuntu oudepote tou anagnwrise to modem giati 
kapoios ksypnios 8ewrei oti ta human beings exoun ola ekswterika h 
seiriaka modem kai osoi exoun winmodem einai elefantes (se anti8esh me 
to Yast ... eee .... to Suse pou to eide amesws). Kai mh mou peis kamia 
eksypnada gia OpenSource/ClosedSource/GPL kai alles tetoies mpourdes: 
antistoixoi logoi (anaitiologhtos fobos gia nomikes kinhseis apo thn MS) 
apotrepoun to inclusion tou NTFS module sto Fedora.

Ti allo? A nai, den epaize swsta to ACPI kai h endeiksh ths mpatarias 
htan kollhmenh sto 0. Kati pou epishs tou eixe paiksei mia xara me to 
Yast [an sto shmeio ayto anarwtiesai giati kshlwse to Suse: htan Way2Slow].

>> Και όλα αυτά επειδή η MS είχε κάνει εξ αρχής βλακεία και αν δεν είσαι 
>> στο Administrator group, δεν μπορείς να δουλέψεις σωστά.
>
>
> To opoio den exei kamia apolytws sxesh me to sudo sto ubuntu. 


Gia thn akribeia einai sxedon to idio, apo th stigmh pou me sudo mporeis 
na kaneis *ta panta* xwris na ksanabaleis password (opws kai sta 
Windows). H monh diafora einai oti by default o xrhsths einai non-root.

Kata ta loipa h omoiothta me to Suse alla kai tis perissoteres 
"user-friendly" distros pou kata kairous exw dokimasei, kai ta Windows 
akoma, htan foberh: ypoti8etai pws mporeis na kaneis xalara th douleia 
sou me to GUI, alla spaniws 8a katafereis na kaneis ta panta me to GUI 
kai 8a xreiastei na bouthkseis ta xeria sou sta sk***. Kai epeidh fysika 
einai h xakia, ths xakias, w xakia, diapistwneis oti den einai ta gnwsta 
sk*** pou oloi exoume ma8ei kai agapame alla kati poly ksexwristo kai 
monadiko.

Kalosthmeno my ass ...

G.

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[0] Pou (IMO kai anaferomenos sto 10.0) den einai, toulaxiston oxi gia 
to skopo pou eksyphretei
[1] Efikto edw kai arketo kairo kai apo to OpenSuse 10.0 efikto KAI apo 
to CD/DVD egkatastashs
[2] Ka8oti exei to pleon kalytero kai isxyro package tool apo oles tis 
dianomes linux, to Portage [kai prin petaxtei kanas keramidas kai 
arxisei na leei istories, NAI oi maintainers kanoun apisteytes malakies, 
alla de ftaiei to package tool epeidh o maintainer tou Apache apofasizei 
out-of-the-blue na allaksei location sta config files]




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