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On Sat, Sep 04, 2004 at 10:57:16PM +0300, Steve Stavropoulos wrote:
> On Sat, 4 Sep 2004 17:56:58 +0000 (UTC), Nikos wrote:
> > den kanei na peripezoume tin Agia Grafi me auton ton tropo dioti einai
> > Theopneusto vivlio.
> > 
> 
>  Poios thn anakurh3e 8eopneysto biblio? Na sou 8ymisw oti merikes
> ekatontades xronia meta to 8anato tou Ihsou kapoioi typoi ths
> ekklhsias mazeythkan kai apofasisan poia apo ta ekatontades keimena
> pou eixan graftei mexri tote htan 8eopneysta kai poia oxi, opote to an
> einai h agia grafh 8eopneysth h oxi anagete sto an htan 8eopneysth h
> epilogh, ara kai aytoi pou kanan thn epilogh. Poioi arage na htan
> aytoi oi "8eopneystoi" an8rwpoi pou to mono pragma pou fainete na
> kanan sthn zwh tous htan mia epilogh? Malista mia epilogh pou oloi thn
> apwsiopoioun kai emfanizoun thn Agia Grafh ws to monadiko dynato
> sygkrama.
>  Meta erxontai alla 8emata, opws px. ta krithria ths epiloghs kai an
> htan symfwna me ths anagkes ths sygkekrimenhs epoxhs, ka8e epoxhs, h
> tis 8eikes. Edw kanan  ton komple3iko/synthritiko Paylo, apostolo. Ton
> typo pou e8ete 8eikous kanones gia to mhkos twn malliwn twn an8rwpwn.
> 
> PS. Mhn tolmhsei kaneis kai pei pws eimai offtopic. Me exete prh3ei me
> tis blakeies me to skia toso kairo :P

(off topic omws paramenei)

Kai mh ksexname oti kapou ston 4o me 6o an 8imamai kala aiwna meta
xriston apofasisan oti oi gynaikes exoyn psyxes. 

Prwsopika exw thn entypwsh oti oi episimes ekklhsies sinithos den
akoloy8oyn ayta poy eipe o xristos kai polles fores ayta poy leei
h nea dia8hkh an upo8esoyme oti den einai poly baria alagmenh 
- gegonos poy einai pi8anotato opws ypo8eteis (exw thn entypwsh 
pws kai h palaia einai alla ayto einai dys-off topic). 

Gia mena ta paradeigmata peri "tsakwmwn" poy eixe me to tote ebraiko
kai episimo katesthmeno 8riskias peri sabbatoy kai apagoreysewn einai
sthn oysia sa na leei "poloi typoi kai kanones toy ekklisas prepei polles
fores apla na agnooyntai kai den yparxei kanena problhma me ayto". Sthn
apokalypsh epishs emfanizetai ena teras me polla kefalia poy
paroysiazetai na kanei maxh me thn ypoti8emenh "pragmatikh ekklhsia" to
opoio xarakthrizetai ws teras twn pollwn ekklhsiwn. De moy kanei
entypwsh oti sta sxolika moy xronia akoysa polles fores na mh diabasoyme
thn apokalypsh giati 8a hmastan anikanoi na thn katanohsoyme.

Ola ayta ta 8emata an kai akoygontai logia toy aera ginontai poly
endiaferonta otan apodiknietai istorika pws laoi fysika apomakrysmenoi
gia xiliades xronia opws oi aboriginoi ths aystralias se sxesi me toys
israhlites aneptyksan 8eories kai istories poy akoma kai meta apo megalh
xronikh diabrosh parameinan panomoiotypes opws kai kapoies apisteytes 
sigkiries opws to oti h anwtath ierarxia astronomwn twn messopotamiwn -
oi "matzi" - poy den eixan 8rhskeytikh sxesh me toys israilites, kata th
gennhsh toy xristoy pistepsan mesw astrologikwn ypo8esewn pws kati
shmantiko 8a synebaine katw apo mia astronomikh parathrhsh toys, thn
ey8ygramish toy asterismoy toy oriona me 2 planhtes toy hliakoy susthmatos
opws apodiknietai apo th sygxronh astronomia oti synebh gyrw sto 4 meta
xristoni kai paragei to "effect" enos poly fwtinoy asterioy.

Dystixos to "new age" kai o 8rhskeytikos fanatismos einai kyriarxa sto
internet kai h eyresh istorikwn kai epistimonikwn apodiksewn ginetai
poly epiponh diadikasia.

Episis myala poy den antexoyn na paizoyn me yperanalysh panw se ypo8eseis
wste na ginetai ena stadiako limitation ekeinwn twn ypo8esewn pragmatika
_den antexoyn_ na asxoloyntai me ayta. 8eloyn ta panta sto episthmoniko
piato poy kapoios allos poy ekane ayth th doyleia kai ka8arise th bromia
toy "new age" kai toy dogmatismoy serbirei.

Synepws ayti ti stigmh ayto to piato den periexei kai polla dioti ligoi
asxoloyntai me episthmonikh deontologia kai anoixto myalo.

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-fs