Provlima me X Win sto Debian

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Thu Aug 19 07:33:09 EEST 2004


> Κατά την άποψή μου, η stable είναι πιο κατάλληλη για server και γενικά
> συστήματα που θες να υπάρχει σταθερότητα, να μην αλλάζουν συχνά οι
> εκδόσεις των πακέτων, και να βγαίνουν οι κατάλληλες διορθώσεις όποτε
> ανακαλύπτονται προβλήματα ασφαλείας.

(grafw apo atestaristo squirrel, de ksero an stilei iso7)

To Debian einai ftiagmeno me th logikh na phgainei kata gramma me to nomo
kai deyteron na einai sta8ero, h filosofia toy den einai na yparxei mia
ekdosh gia servers, mia gia desktop users kai mia gia testers. H filosofia
toy einai *opws akribws blepeis tis anomasies*. Stable: sta8erh, h ekdosh
gia oloys. testing: Stable candidate, testarisma apo users, Unstable:
asta8hs mono gia serius testing kai development.

To debian project edo kai kairo exei kolhma me to na phgainei "by the
book" kai na einai sxetika sta8ero. Prosfata eixan problima gia to an bgei
stable ekdosi gia amd64. O logos den htan oti eixan astathi paketa opws
poloi 8a perimenan alla epeidi den yphrxe akoma katoxiromeno posix spec
gia amd64.

Oson afora thn emonh toys sto stability. To linux me thn ka8hmerinh - kai
la8os - enoia ths lekshs den exei ftasei sto nirvana ths sta8erothtas para
tis fhmes. Polla chipsets apo motherboards ews modems kai kartes grafikwn
einai ypo-supported kai prokaloyn asta8eies. Akoma kai ws kernel den einai
alan8asto. Akoma kai - profanws - problhmata poy einai la8os allwn - opws
hardware bugs - den einai 100% resolved pote. Meta apo arketa xronia -
arketa gia na to katalabo - to debian project exei mia poly kalh optikh
sto 8ema. Oi dianomes poy san 12xrona paidakia kitane th bitrina toy
kde.org kai ka8e kde.org kai amesws fonazoyn "mpampa, ayto to 8elo!" einai
telika ekeines me ta perissotera problimata gia to xrhsth. Ekeines poy
bazoyn -pre kernels mono kai mono gia na diksoyn sto koyti mia neoterh
ekdosh, as mh tis analiso kan.

An den eisai programmatisths h' package maintainer h' sobaros tester toy
debian den prepei pote na bazeis unstable. Se ayth th periptosh kalytera
na asxoli8eis me mandrake gia na exeis kai kapoio - ypoti8emeno - support.
To unstable den yparxei san onoma gia na pei "new kde inside" yparxei gia
na pei "asta8es". Den einai liges oi fores poy ypoleitoyrgei megalo meros
toy susthmatos kai perimeneis wres ews meres na diortho8ei. To unstable
einai mono gia sobaroys testers, programmatistes toy debian kai package
maintainers.

Anti na petate sthn akrh to debian gia to "magiko" distribution me to neo
kde skeftite ta ekshs gegonota:

a) To Debian development symfwna me profaneis endikseis den eixe pote
oikonomiko ofelos. Pi8anotata na einai to GPL project me toys
perissoteroys e8elontes pagkosmiws. Par'ola ayta, xwris kanena - ektos
isos apo atomikes kai spanies periptoseis kapoiwn - oikonomiko symferon
akoloy8a to tropo ekdosewn poy akoloy8a. Akoma kai an ayto epibli8ike
arxika apo kapoion oi ypoloipoi akoma akoloy8oyn. Den aksizei ligo skepsh
ayto;

b) O ogkos twn backports sto internet einai tetoios poy spania den 8a
breis kati kainoyrgio poy ontws xreiazesai gia debian stable.

Gia na mi makrigoroyme, na katalikso oti to debian an xreisimopoi8ei
prepei na xrisimopoii8ei ws stable. Alliws eisai h' sobaros tester, h'
ftiaxneis .debs h' apla paizeis. An prepei oposdhpote na xrisimopoiiseis
kati poy den yparxei sto stable, yparxoyn apeira sources gia backports.

Kai gia na pw praktika ti symbainei: An exeis unstable to systhma
ypoleitoyrgei, prepei na'sai "modellistisths" kai pragmatika na exeis
oreksh na diorthoneis pragmata gia (kala, to oti prepei na exeis
toylaxiston 10mbit me to internet de to sizitame) na to antezeis. To
testing einai to pio enoxlitiko ap'ta tria telika dioti kai exeis meros
ths asta8eias kai den exeis ta perissotera teleytaia paketa kai otan pas
na breis backports blepeis oti ta perissotera einai gia stable.

Elpizo o kosmos na dei ligo sobarotera to debian project, na mhn to
ypotima toso eykola se styl "ti malakes toso palio XXX exoyn kai toso
palio XXX exoyn, as balo unstable na do an einai sta8ero kai an den einai,
einai axrhstoi" kai as siniditopoiisoyn kapoia pragmata poy o8hsan ton
kosmo na asxoli8ei mazi toy. Kai sigoyra, as katalabei oti oyte sto
nirvana sta8erothtas brisketai to "a tyxaio" kernel kai linux programma
oyte einai egklobismenos o xrhsths debian stable stis ekdoseis toy stable.

-fs




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