Ethics (Was: Re: Selida sxetiki me...)

[Papadogiannakis Vagelis]

On Wed, 18 Sep 2002 12:58:08 +0300 Stelios Bounanos <sb at dial.pipex.com> wrote:

> Grok this: ta exploits einai xrhsimo na yparxoyn trigyrw. Piezoyn tis etairies
> na dior8wnoyn ta programmata toys. Epitrepoyn stoys administrators na
> blepoyn an ta mhxanhmata toys einai vulnerable kai an ontws oi dior8wseis
> doyleyoyn opws prepei.

Exeis dikio. Episis prepei na poulane pirinika sta periptera mpas kai o kosmos katalavei poso kako mporoun na kanoun.

>  > Anagnwrizw pws to site periexei polla omorfa scriptakia pou tha
>  > mporousan na theorithoun "examples" gia kapoion pou mathainei
>  > programmatismo se linux kai freebsd alla na dineis tromera epikindina
>  > exploits se public site einai entelws ilithio. 
> 
> Ypo8etontas oti symfwneis me ayto poy egrapsa pio panw, pws proteineis
> na diadidontai ta exploits an oxi se public sites?

omoios, pos proteineis na diadidontai ta pirinika an oxi se periptera?

>  > An theleis na faneis xrhsimos, dwse th gnwsh ston allo na ta ftiaksei
>  > monos tou. Giati apo oso katalaba den eisai xazos, exeis gnwseis
>  > kai polla scripts ekei mesa den einai anaferomena se exploits. Isws,
>  > lew isws, kapoies extreme katastaseis isws na diakiologoun th xrhsh enos
>  > exploit pros xarhn ths "fwnhs tou laou". Alla h fwnh tou kathe 12xronou
>  > pou thelei na "riksei to internet" einai pisteuw hdh arketa ixhrh.
>
> Symfwnw. Epishs symfwnw oti to www.coderz.gr ayth th stigmh den einai toso selida
> gia "leitoyrgika systhmata kai programmatismo", oso selida gia script kiddies.
> So what?

Nai, kai ta inomena e8ni den einai toso organosi gia tin ``enosi ton e8non'' alla ferefono tou amerikanikou epektatismou. So what?

> Rgds,
> /-sb.

ola ta parapano, an kai ligo travigmena, gia na sou deikso oti ola einai sxetika, kai pragmata sta opoia kapoios exei evais8isia, kapoion allo ton afinoun adiaforo. Esi dialegeis poios eisai kai to threshold tis evais8isias sou. (apo oti katalava anamesa ston (Mixali || emena) kai esena, iparxei mia kapoia diafora evais8isias)

PS: sizitisi kanoume :>
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Vagelis Papadogiannakis
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