Ελληνικα - X, GNOME

[Constantinos Antoniou]

On Sun, 2002-02-03 at 10:08, drcypher wrote:
> Telika me ta ellinika den yparxei ena provlima, alla dyo: 
> 1. Pos na vlepeis ellinika: re paidia, kserei kaneis an telika prokeitai
> na yiothetithei ena standard gia tis kodikopiiseis? Einai eknevristiko
> na nomizei kaneis oti epitelous borei na vlepei ellinika stin othoni tou
> kai telika ta misa ellinika na fainontai, ta alla misa oxi. Paradigma
> apo to gnome, pou sto idio menu exo ellinika labels, kai mesa se afta
> ena (elliniko kata ta alla keimeno) me ta grammata 'ksi' kai 'omikron'
> -os epi to pleiston-, kefalaia kai se diaforous sindiasmous. Anamesa
> tous yparxoun kai liga alla simvola, opos afto tou 1/2, ktl. Kai aftos
> einai o protos tropos pou emfanizontai esfalmena ta ellinika. Exo

Kalispera,

Ayto to exw antimetwpisei kai egw. Nomizw oti simainei oti einai unicode
to keimeno kai an to deis me UTF-8 h kati tetoio tha sto dejei... Den
kaneis mia dokimi?


> ellinikes grammatoseires apo to graphis kai klemenes truetype apo ta
> windows, alla afto fenetai den ftanei. Exo slack 8 kai trexo gnome, kai
> o naftilos exei ellinika menu, kai parathira, alla ta items pou dixni
> (directoreis, files, ktl) sinodevontai apo keimeno pou anaparistatai me
> erotimatika. (defteros tropos esfalmenis anaparastasis ton ellinikon). 
> Apo kei kai pera, se para polla programmata, an mou dinetai apo to idio
> to programma na allakso ta fonts boro na do ellinika, allios afta
> fainontai san evropaika (kserete emfanizontai pano sta grammata kati
> gallikoi tonoi, germanika umlaut, kai tetia pragmata) (tritos tropos
> emfanishs ton ellinikon). 
> Episis, piga prosfatos kai katevasa to Xfree86 4.2.0. Exei opos fainetai
> parousiasei ekseliksi sto thema ton grammatoseiron (exei true type,
> 2-byte grammatosires ktl). Episis mou fenetai oti ypostirizoun oi
> grammatosires perissotera encodings. Xarika kai go, pou epitelous ta
> ellinika ensomatothikan pliros. Alla ta encodings se oles tis
> grammatoseires tous, pidan apo to ISO8859-9 sto ISO8859-4. 
> An einai pote dynaton. Boro na do apo ton mozilla KINEZIKA (pragmatika
> kinezika, me ideogrammata kai ta loipa), kai den boro na do ellinika
> xoris na xaso tin ora mou! 

Ayto den me parajenevei poly gia dyo kyriws logous:
a) Yparxoun >1.2 dis kinezoi kai ~10 ekatomyria ellhnes (kai kati psila
sto ejwteriko...proswrina ;h monima)
b) Yparxoun sobares kai megales etairies (local, i.e. red-flag) pou
doulevoun stin ypostiriji tou linux gia ta kinezika (parakalw oxi flames
gia tous filous pou kanoun filotimes prospatheies gia tin ypostiriji
ellinikwn tou linux. Den nomizw kanenas na amfiballei oti an asxolountan
apokleistika me ayto kai plirwnontan aytoi kai alloi tosoi den tha
ginotan pio kalh douleia....)

> 
<snip> 
> Signomi gia to makroskeles tis epistolis. Efxaristo apo tora opion vri
> ligo xrono na sxoliasei i na apantisei sta zitimata pou ethesa.
> Efxaristo. 
> -- 
> Doctor Cypher, C/C++ Wanna-Be Coder
> [http://www.hack.gr/users/drcypher]

Ta pragmata proxwrane poly grigora pantws. (pros tin kali kateythinsi.)
Gia to redhat 7.2 xreiazetai mono na katebaseis ta graphis
fonts/microsoft ttf kai ena environment variable (kai fysika to
xf86config-4 ena mikro peiragmataki).

Filika,

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