OpenCD: ελληνικό;

[Dimitris Anastasiadis]

oson afora to nomiko thema......

an mpei i sdoe sto magazi mou pou exo stisei desktops se px. mandrake kai
server se redhat  pou ta exo katevasei apo to net  ti ginete?

tha mou zitisoun adies gia ayta i gnorizoun kai aytoi gia to open-source
software?










----- Original Message -----
From: "fateswarm" <admin at www0.org>
To: "Yannis Kotsinos" <zookie at med.auth.gr>
Cc: "fateswarm" <admin at www0.org>; <linux-greek-users at hellug.gr>
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 4:07 AM
Subject: Re: OpenCD: ελληνικό;


> On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 09:03:52PM +0200, Yannis Kotsinos wrote:
> > On Tuesday 10 December 2002 10:43, fateswarm wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 10:28:33PM +0200, Nikolaos Dionysopoulos
wrote:
> > > > Τώρα, ναι μεν οι περισσότεροι ξέρουν ότι το Linux έχει γραφικό
> > > > περιβάλλον και τα λοιπά, αλλά ο λόγος που διστάζουν να το βάλουν
είναι :
> > > >
> > > > α)Δεν γνωρίζουν αν υπάρχουν εφαρμογές που μπορύν να κάνουν την
δουλειά
> > > > τους (στυλ WinAMP, Office, Explorer)
> > >
> > > Prepei na ginei enhmerosh oxi mono antistoixon programmatwn alla kai
> > > diaforetikwn tropwn leitourgias. Dld den einai swsto na papagalizoume
to
> > > openoffice otan uparxoun tosoi enalaktikoi tropoi na kaneis tis
douleies
> > > ekeines me mia entelos diaforetikh filosofia.
> > >
> > > De fobatai o kosmos etsi, enti8eta blepei oti uparxei enas neos tropos
> > > skepshs mprosta tou, oxi mono "na des, auto kanei oti kai to word kai
> > > einai TZAAAAMPA!!!!". Alla kai "na des, sth koinwtita tou linux
> > > ma8ainoume na kanoume ti douleia mas taxitera kai sinithws swstotera
kai
> > > me kaluterh sta8erothta susthmatos".
> >
> > Anti na to gyrisw sto reverse engineering, protimhsa na dw ayto to
> > "Lainux" ;)
>
> Legetai "liiiiiiinux":p
>
> > /* disclaimer: not personal */
> > IOW: To open source _den_ einai mono *TZAMPA* kai gia mena einai la8os
(eidika
> > sto ellanta opoy oi ennallaktikes lyseis den plhrwnontai sxedon pote) na
> > einai ayto to pio basiko epixeirhma.
>
> > To open source enswmatwnei poly
> > perissoteres kai apeirws pio shmantikes dynamikes apo to tzampa.
>
> Mh ksexnas oti presbebei _kai_ auto, xwris na se periorizei na xreoneis
> extra eksoda.
>
> > To "tzampa"
> > einai mia parenergeia.
>
> De m'aresei ka8olou auth h protash. Suggnomh, alla _DEN_ mporw na bgazw
> 5.000 dolaria to xrono apo th tseph mou sa foitiths gia na ta dinw sto
> Autocad.
>
> H GPL mas dinei auto to extra probadisma, to na to blepeis "guftia" h'
> "parenergia" einai parenergia:>
>
> > Merika, oxi kai toso polla xronakia prin, polys kosmos
> > 8a plhrwne gia na exei prosbash _ston kwdika_ (xese ta binaries) poy
ayth th
> > stigmh mporei opoiosdhpote na dei. Skepsoy thn ekpaideytikh shmasia: ton
> > teleytaio kairo poy exw --epiteloys-- pesei me ta moytra sth C exw brei
th
> > xara moy sto /usr/src/. Thn ais8hsh empistosynhs (security != obscurity)
enos
> > kwdika prosbasimoy se oloys. Thn ikanothta na zwntaneyeis ena pc poy o
> > klain-main high-end windows kosmos 8ewrei !kewl. H telos pantwn, me liga
> > logia thn logikh toy: "free, as in thought".
>
> Exeis dikio se auto, alla prosekse, den presbebei to sunolo ths GPL,
> mono to shmantikotero meros, pou einai h eleu8erh xrhsh tou source.
>
> Mh ksexnas epishs pws to "plhrwnw gia na dw to source" spania shmainei
> "mporw na to xrisimopoiisw a8ikto" h' estw me mikres allages.
>
> To na dexesai na kukloforiseis kati upo thn GPL shmenei:
>
> a) Dwrean kai aperioristh xrhsh tou programmatos apo opoiondhpote.
> b) Diafania tou source code se tritous kai eleu8eria toys na kanoun
> allages
> g) Aperioristh eleu8eria tritwn na metabibazoun to programma opou 8eloun
> d) Eleu8eria tritwn na metabibazoun allagmeno to source tou programmatos
>
>          ( http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html )
>
> e) H adeia upoxrewnei ton trito hacker enos programmatos na thn krathsei
a8ikth.
> e1) Sunepos, oti pros8eteis se GPL programma ginetai GPL.
>
> -mike
>
> yg. To e) einai to zoumi pou kanei thn adeia anwterh apo tis perissoteres
> paromoies. Asfalh gia ton programmatisth pou de 8elei na dei to
> programma toy na xaramizetai gia thn arpaxth tou ka8e blaka, kai asfalh
> gia thn olh filosofia. De mporei enas tritos na parei olo to kernel kai
> na to kanei closed source allazontas mia grammh. Oute an allaksei to
> miso.
>
> yg2. Pollous fobizei to e1), de nomizw pws exei na diksei kati
> diaforetiko to e1 apo to e) kai ta alla. An kapoios sunepos de mporei
> na dextei to e1) shmainei pws den tou aresei genika h logikh ths adeias.
>
>
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