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[fateswarm]

On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 09:03:52PM +0200, Yannis Kotsinos wrote:
> On Tuesday 10 December 2002 10:43, fateswarm wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 10:28:33PM +0200, Nikolaos Dionysopoulos wrote:
> > > Τώρα, ναι μεν οι περισσότεροι ξέρουν ότι το Linux έχει γραφικό
> > > περιβάλλον και τα λοιπά, αλλά ο λόγος που διστάζουν να το βάλουν είναι :
> > >
> > > α)Δεν γνωρίζουν αν υπάρχουν εφαρμογές που μπορύν να κάνουν την δουλειά
> > > τους (στυλ WinAMP, Office, Explorer)
> >
> > Prepei na ginei enhmerosh oxi mono antistoixon programmatwn alla kai
> > diaforetikwn tropwn leitourgias. Dld den einai swsto na papagalizoume to
> > openoffice otan uparxoun tosoi enalaktikoi tropoi na kaneis tis douleies
> > ekeines me mia entelos diaforetikh filosofia.
> >
> > De fobatai o kosmos etsi, enti8eta blepei oti uparxei enas neos tropos
> > skepshs mprosta tou, oxi mono "na des, auto kanei oti kai to word kai
> > einai TZAAAAMPA!!!!". Alla kai "na des, sth koinwtita tou linux
> > ma8ainoume na kanoume ti douleia mas taxitera kai sinithws swstotera kai
> > me kaluterh sta8erothta susthmatos".
> 
> Anti na to gyrisw sto reverse engineering, protimhsa na dw ayto to 
> "Lainux" ;)

Legetai "liiiiiiinux":p

> /* disclaimer: not personal */
> IOW: To open source _den_ einai mono *TZAMPA* kai gia mena einai la8os (eidika 
> sto ellanta opoy oi ennallaktikes lyseis den plhrwnontai sxedon pote) na 
> einai ayto to pio basiko epixeirhma. 

> To open source enswmatwnei poly 
> perissoteres kai apeirws pio shmantikes dynamikes apo to tzampa.

Mh ksexnas oti presbebei _kai_ auto, xwris na se periorizei na xreoneis
extra eksoda.

> To "tzampa" 
> einai mia parenergeia.

De m'aresei ka8olou auth h protash. Suggnomh, alla _DEN_ mporw na bgazw
5.000 dolaria to xrono apo th tseph mou sa foitiths gia na ta dinw sto
Autocad. 

H GPL mas dinei auto to extra probadisma, to na to blepeis "guftia" h' 
"parenergia" einai parenergia:>

> Merika, oxi kai toso polla xronakia prin, polys kosmos 
> 8a plhrwne gia na exei prosbash _ston kwdika_ (xese ta binaries) poy ayth th 
> stigmh mporei opoiosdhpote na dei. Skepsoy thn ekpaideytikh shmasia: ton 
> teleytaio kairo poy exw --epiteloys-- pesei me ta moytra sth C exw brei th 
> xara moy sto /usr/src/. Thn ais8hsh empistosynhs (security != obscurity) enos 
> kwdika prosbasimoy se oloys. Thn ikanothta na zwntaneyeis ena pc poy o 
> klain-main high-end windows kosmos 8ewrei !kewl. H telos pantwn, me liga 
> logia thn logikh toy: "free, as in thought".

Exeis dikio se auto, alla prosekse, den presbebei to sunolo ths GPL,
mono to shmantikotero meros, pou einai h eleu8erh xrhsh tou source.

Mh ksexnas epishs pws to "plhrwnw gia na dw to source" spania shmainei
"mporw na to xrisimopoiisw a8ikto" h' estw me mikres allages.

To na dexesai na kukloforiseis kati upo thn GPL shmenei:

a) Dwrean kai aperioristh xrhsh tou programmatos apo opoiondhpote.
b) Diafania tou source code se tritous kai eleu8eria toys na kanoun
allages
g) Aperioristh eleu8eria tritwn na metabibazoun to programma opou 8eloun
d) Eleu8eria tritwn na metabibazoun allagmeno to source tou programmatos

         ( http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html )

e) H adeia upoxrewnei ton trito hacker enos programmatos na thn krathsei a8ikth.
e1) Sunepos, oti pros8eteis se GPL programma ginetai GPL.

-mike

yg. To e) einai to zoumi pou kanei thn adeia anwterh apo tis perissoteres
paromoies. Asfalh gia ton programmatisth pou de 8elei na dei to
programma toy na xaramizetai gia thn arpaxth tou ka8e blaka, kai asfalh
gia thn olh filosofia. De mporei enas tritos na parei olo to kernel kai
na to kanei closed source allazontas mia grammh. Oute an allaksei to
miso.

yg2. Pollous fobizei to e1), de nomizw pws exei na diksei kati
diaforetiko to e1 apo to e) kai ta alla. An kapoios sunepos de mporei
na dextei to e1) shmainei pws den tou aresei genika h logikh ths adeias.