Browser war (Was Re: bigcity.gr)

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On Thu, 20 Sep 2001 00:27:28 +0300 Stoilis Giannis <stoilis at bluebird.gr> wrote:

> Koita, an ton shkwnei to mhxanhma sou, o Internet Explorer eimai pragmati o 
> kaluteros browser pou exw dei. O mozilla akoma einai pio argos kai den exei 
> tosa features. Se ena ar8ro (lupamai, den 8umamai pou) eida oti o explorer 6 
> einai o browser pou exei kataferei na ulopoieisei ta perissotera apo ta css 
> properties apo ka8e allo mozilla 'h' konqueror. An auto allaksei, den to 
> kserw alla to elpizw...

An to 8imi8eis, pes mas kai tin imerominia tou, giati afti ti stigmi kai pio prin (moz 0.9.3) o mozilla itan o kaliteros se ipostiriksi CSS, akoma kai apo ton IE6 (eipa kai se proigoumeno posting, des to http://www.linux.com gia na katalabeis)

> Apofasisa na ftiaksw mia sobarh web selida. Anoigw to nedit kai arxizw (kedit 
> sucks). Phgainw se opoio site eixe endiaferontai eggrafa gia css kai arxizw 
> na peiramatizomai me css. Ti na dw? Kaneis ma kaneis browser den uposthrizei 
> entelws css. Apo ton ena leipei auto, apo ton explorer auto, apo ton 
> konqueror auto klp. Ta css uparxoun apo 1996, apo oti eida kai AKOMA exoun 
> problhma ulopoihshs, twra pou paei na bgei h xml? Egw as poume oti eimai o 
> web designer pou akouse to brisidi sas kai prospa8ei na katsei na ma8ei 
> standards alla ksafnika blepei ena mpaxalo, ti na kanei?
> ok, DEN xrhsimopoiw css, as peiksw thn selida mou se tags kai tables. 
> Ksafnika, blepw mia selida me dekades kb mege8os, pou kanei na ginei render 
> perissotero kai apo to in.gr! Aman, lew, mas piasane, poios 8a katsei na 
> pereimenei na kanei download kai render toso megalh selida? P.x, to in.gr mou 
> aresei san periexomeno, alla den to episkeptomai epeidh me tsatizei h 
> taxuthta tou

Kaneis fovero la8os, mallon den asxolisai kai poli me web design. Apo ta css, kai o netscape, kai o mozilla, kai o IE, ilopoioun ta perissotera, ola osa sou einai aparaitita gia na ftiakseis ena PA-NE-MO-RFO site. Me css. CASCADING STYLE SHEETS. Oute exploits se tables, oute <marque> oute <blink>tags.

Kai edo 8elo na sta8o ligo kai na sigxaro ton konqueror gia tin POLI kali ypostiriksi css pou exei (an kai oxi olokliromeni)

> Katalhgw: flash den 8elw, einai baru. javascript den 8elw, epeidh oxi mono 
> exei problhma (akoma) o mozilla, alla epeidh mou etuxe na brw akoma kai 

Stin Javascript, ase, pali i microsoft ta xei kanei psilokolo. Oso gia ton netscape/mozilla, i ylopoiisi tis javascript einai kaliteri (Na mi milisoume gia DOM). Apla des to se platforma windows, kai oxi linux opou i ipostiriksi einai periorismeni.

> netscape-specific kwdika pou den epaize se explorer. html sketh den mporw na 
> xrhsimopoihsw xwris na ftiaksw ena teras. css den mporw na xrhsimopoiw epeidh 
> akoma den einai upolopoihmenh swsta apo tous browsers. 
> kai egw pou 8elw TWRA na ftiaksw mia selida pou na einai omorfh, praktikh, 
> filikh, elafria kai sumbath me ola TI NA KANW? (opoios apanthsei "ypomonh" 8a 
> faei brisimo :))) )
> 
> grmf...
> 
> - Giannis

Sovara tora, to mono pou o IE exei kai pragmatika se afto o netscape/mozilla einai (kai 8a einai) eth piso einai i ypostiriksi smil (ti? den kserete ti einai afto? grrrrrrrrigora sta expert! (http://www.w3c.org/AudioVideo/))

Vlepo oti kai stin lgu, oi designers eimaste mavra xalia. Poios eftiakse to site tou bigcity?? tora na mas pei kai isos tou xarisoume ti zoi :)

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Vagelis Papadogiannakis
http://www.wise.gr
papas at wise.gr