MS-Linux (?) kai Open Source (Was:Re: X Window manager mase with Kylix!)

[Giorgos Keramidas]

On Sat, Apr 07, 2001 at 12:45:06PM +0300, Dimitris Trifonopoulos wrote:
> Hello Michalis,
> 
> Saturday, April 07, 2001, 11:43:04 AM, you wrote:
> 
> MK> Ante na peiseis esy ton proistameno sou. oti den to bazeis epeidi einai
> MK> astathes.
> 
> Den exo proistameno.

Tuxeros eisai :) Den einai oloi akribos etsi.
Gia thn akribeia, sxedon oloi *den* einai etsi.

Jereis, ta epixeirhmata peri 'texnikhs artiothtas' einai OK,
alla den pianoun mia mprosta se epixeirhmata opws:

  * An oloi oi upologistes se ena tmhma sas exoun Windows,
    to sugkekrimeno tmhma tha exei 30% ekptosh sta proionta mas.

> Serfaro me Opera sta Win kai Konqueror sto Linux. Ta provlimata me to
> Opera einai poly perissotera.

Auto ki an den einai epixeirhma.

Ejartatai toso apo to ti selides diabazeis, oso ki apo to ti browser
xrhsimopoieis, oso kai apo to poio leitourgiko susthma exeis.
An oi selides exoun flash content kai esu eisai se FreeBSD me Netscape,
h katastash einai diaforetikh apo to na eisai se Windows me IE5, p.x.

> MK> Alitheia, giati ayti ti stigmi leme oti DEN mas afinoun na exoume oti OS
> MK> theloume? Giati den exoume tin epilogi?
> 
> Giati?

Giati etsi einai.
Otan erthei o allos kai sou pei "to Texniko mas Tmhma den uposthrizei
upologistes me penhnta diaforetika OS, kai prepei na baleis Windows",
otan sou stelnei "doc", "xls", "ppt", "oti nanai" arxeia kai theorei oti to
format tous den einai problhma gia sena na to diabaseis (ma den exeis Word?),
otan sou stelnei tis allages gia to site pou prepei na exeis etoimo aurio
se self-extracing .EXE (`anotero programma to WinZip, mexri kai programmata
ftiaxnei', leei to ilithio comment mesa sto mail, anti na sou ejhgei giati
akribws esu tha prepei na empisteueis ena .EXE apo auton ton tupo), ...

Exeis hdh parei mia idea tou ti thelo na po.
Pisteuo to "giati" na apanth8hke.

> Milame omos gia open source. An kati apo ayta:
>
> a) den eksipiretei

Kathara upokeimenikh ennoia.  Kati pou ejuphretei emena, ton pio dipla mporei
na ton kanei na bgainei apo ta rouxa tou.  Kati pou ejuphretei ena texniko
(p.x. to na exei konta ena tcpdump giati mporei na tou xreiastei), mporei se
mia grammatea na einai apo axrhsto ews enoxlhtiko (ti, ego tha doulepsw se
command line xoris pontiki? DEN PAS KALA).

> b) einai ypopto gia sillogi-apostoli pliroforion para  tin thelisi-gnosi toy xristi

Gia open source milame.  Auto DEN ginetai.

O phgaios kwdikas einai ekei.  Pernaei apo dekades matia, kai an kanei kati
tetoio to jeroume prin to kanei.

Kalws hr8ate ston uperoxo kosmo tou Open Source, opou panta h frash "Easter
Egg" shmainei ekeina ta omorfa, kokkinopa auga, pou to Pasxa mporei kaneis na
kanei salata me ligo riganh kai polu kalamatiano ladi.

Auto pou les, einai eukolo na ginei se closed source programmata.
P.x. ola ta `easter eggs' pou akoma kai site uparxei me terastia sullogh,
emena me kanoun na skeftomai to ejhs "an autos mporei na krupsei ena oloklhro
paixnidi sto pathma enos magic-sunduasmou plhktrwn, tote enas theos jerei ti
allo exei balei mesa sto programma tou pou ginetai trigger kapos allios, kai
den tha to mathei pote kaneis".

Alla auto, opws eipame.. ksexase to gia Open Source programmata.

> c) einai mi apodotiko-argo

Auto einai sxedon ena kalo epixeirhma pou afora sthn 'texnikh artiothta' enos
programmatos.  Alla gia logous marketting, omoiomorfias, eukolias stin
uposthrijh, xrhshs "koinwn argaleiwn", klp. pou mallon afhsa apla na ennoh8oun
parapano, den exei panta toso megalh shmasia h texnikh artiothta kai h
poiothta kapoiou programmatos.

> d) prokalei provlimata asymvatotitas

An to M$-Linux kataferei kai einai PIO `asumbato' apo oti einai to linux me ta
Windows, tha einai na to thaumazei kaneis.

> e) einai praktika axristo

Err, mhpos mporeis na ejhghseis se kapoion pou exei diabasei tin selida me ta
apeira linux distributions sto LWN [1] giati akribos einai axrhsto 'ena
akoma linux distribution' ?  Mexri kai se kathgories einai pleon ta
distributions tou Linux.  Eh, as mpei kai to MS-linux sthn kathgoria
"Non-technical / desktop" mazi me to "Redmond Linux" pou uparxei hdh.

Auto den to kanei na pauei na einai axrhsto, apla den jero pos to ennoeis to
'axrhsto' otan to les, kai gi auto sou xonomai.  Den mporeis na les etsi ena
"ma auto einai axrhsto", xoris na ejhgeis se poion einai axrhsto kai gia poio
akribos logo eftases sto sumperasma, apofeugontas tin xrhsh frasewn opws
"einai profanes oti...", "oloi jeroume oti...", klp.  Tote ki ego mazi sou :)

> tote o kosmos tha to apovalei mi xrisimopoiontas to (thelo na elpizo),
> i allazontas to.

Analoga thn adeia, mporei na min uparxei h epilogh "to allazo".
An milame gia kati pou einai 'derived' apo to Linux,
tote h adeia tha einai GPL, opote exeis kathe dikaioma na to allakseis.

> Se close source (p.x. Win) ante na vreis kai na apovaleis i (akoma
> perissotero) na allakseis opoia stoixeia toy leitourgikou sou einai axrista
> i epivradynoun ton ypologisti soy adika i soy spane ta nevra genikotera.
> Apla eite to xrisimopoieis eite oxi. Aytes einai oi epiloges sou.

Liges epiloges, an me rothseis emena.  Polu liges.

	"An den sas aresei, den peirazei, emeis auto exoume."

Den akougetai kai polu omorfo auto :-/

--giorgos

[1] Linux Week dot Net

    Distributions gia tis 5 Aprilh 2001 :
    http://www.linuxweek.net/2001/0405/dists.php3