xkb - mhpws to 3exasame;

[Panayotis Katsaloulis]

Prin arxisw to mpla mpla, na sthri3w thn 9esh toy Mhxalh.
To kikbd einai kapws bary, to KDE htan kapws bary, alla to
KDE2 einai ashkwto.
Opoios 9elei na xrhsimopoihsei thn mikroterh kai aploysterh KDE
efarmogh, 9a shkwsei olo to sympan, kati poy kata th gnwmh moy den einai
kalh
idea.

Sto zoymi twra. Shmeiwteon oti twra ekana browsing sto internet gia ayto
to
9ema kai profanws den ta 3erw kala ta pragmata... 9a doyme.


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>  To problhma (gia na to 8ymisw se osous den to 8ymountai,
>  h osous den katebasan/dokimasan to grISOXkb-1.2) einai oti
>  oi 8eseis gia ta key-syms pou mporoun na anate8oun se ena
>  key-code den ftanoun gia tous xarakthres pou pairnoun tono
>  kai dialytika mazi. Gia polytonika de syzhtw...
> 
>  Gia thn akribeia, mporei kaneis na grapsei tono kai
>  dialytika mazi, alla mono an me kapoio high-level tropo
>  (p.x. mesw kapoiou window manager menu) fortwsei ena
>  apokleistika kai mono Ellhniko XKB map (pou den exei
>  ka8olou Agglika dhladh), kai meta 3anagyrisei sto
>  prohgoumeno key-map. Kati tetoio mporei p.x. na ginei
>  mesw enos akomh koumpiou sto title-bar twn para8yrwn pou
>  odhgei ena menu glwsswn plhktrologiou (kati tetoio eixa
>  hdh ylopoihsei gia ton fvwm2 sta plaisia tou grISOXkb-1.2).

An katalaba kala, den exoyme thn dynatothta na patame
[TONOS] - [DIALYTIKA] - [YPSILON]
kai na bgazoyme to ypsilon me tono kai dialytika, swsta;
Ayto poy mporei na ginei einai mono
[TONOS ME DIALYTIKA] - [YPSILON].
San na leme pws den exei "mnhmh".
Akoma to psaxnw kai 9a ta poyme.


>  Mporei (fysika) enas window manager na patch-aristei
>  wste sygkekrimenos syndyasmos plhktrwn na dinei tetoia
>  dynatothta. Polles tetoies "custom" lyseis einai dynates,
>  alla oxi epi8ymhtes. 8eloume kati pou na einai universally
>  available (parapampw p.x. sta ThinkPads ths IBM pou syntoma
>  8a pwlountai kai me Linux/KDE-1.1.2: de nomizw na htan
>  idiaitera dektikoi se "Greek patches" gia ton kdm h ton
>  kbgndwm...)

Den to syzhtw KAN ayto.

>  Apo thn allh, key-map pou gyrizei apo Agglika se Ellhnika
>  kai antistrofa mesw syndyasmou plhktrwn (opws p.x. Left-Alt
>  + Left-Shift) den einai dynaton na yposthri3ei kaneis --
>  toulaxiston me to XKB extension tou X11R6.3 i.e. XFree
>  3.3.x -- gia XFree 4.x den eimai 100% sigouros -- xarakthres
>  opws p.x. to ypsilon me o3eia kai dialytika mazi.

Isws kati moy 3efeygei, alla an den kanw la9os mporeis na oriseis
diaforetika
"Groups" ta opoia 9a enallaseis me AltGr gia paradeigma, wste na einai
persistend
ka9e fora to ena apo ta dyo plhktrologia. Kai ayto isxyei apo to 3.3.X
Ta groups malista einai ews 4 kai gia paradeigma yparxei to rwsiko
plhktrologio.

> 
> > To KDE2 apofasise na balei Unicode. Kai oxi mono ayto, alla katargei to kikbd.
> 
>  Den exw tetoies plhrofories. O shmerinos maintainer tou
>  kikbd Cristian Tibirna <tibirna at kde.org> me ton opoio exw
>  syxna-pykna epikoinwnia mou eixe anaferei oti to kikbd gia
>  to KDE2 einai "under heavy re-write/code-cleaning" alla
>  pote (toulaxiston mexri shmera) de mou exei aneferei oti
>  katargeitai. Mallista exoume symfwnhsei na mou steilei pre-
>  release code tar-balls gia na dokimasw th swsth leitourgia
>  ths yposthri3hs Ellhnikou plhktrologiou. Apo pou phres
>  thn plhroforia oti katargeitai to kikbd;

Apo to site toy KDE, apo ena posting to Mattias-pws-ton-lene.
Eixe pei pws o developer toy kikbd mas parathse kai to KDE gyrnaei sto
xkb.
An eixes katebasei thn BETA toy KDE2 9a to eblepes.
Isws bebaia na synexisthke "siwpila", den to 3erw.

Isws kapoia stigmh 3anagyrisei, alla ypen9ymizw ola ta problhmata poy
exei h yposthri3h ellhnikwn mesw kikbd sta X genikotera.
Kai me to gnome; Me toys alloys WM;
Na shkwnoyn ta KDE2 mono kai mono gia to plhktrologio;
Ayto moy akoygetai ws orismos toy bloatware :(

> 
>  Me xairetismous,
>  Dhmhtrhs
> 

Antixairetw kai egw ton mastora!


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