xkb - mhpws to 3exasame;

Dimitrios P. Bouras dbouras at hol.gr
Wed Oct 4 14:03:07 EEST 2000


Panayotis Katsaloulis wrote:
> 
> Epanerxomai se ena 9ema poy me apasxolouse apo kairo,
> alla me ta "diafora" apo dw kai apo kei eixa boleytei.
> To xkb

 Ti mou 8ymizeis twra :)

> Ayto einai (opws mallon 3erete) to standard gia odhgoys plhktrologiou
> sta X. To erwthma paramenei an exei ginei kammia prospa9eia se
> ayton ton tomea, 'h kai ayto xa9hke sto ba9os toy xronoy.

 Tipote den xanetai sto ba8os tou xronou. Apla diapistwsa
 oti custom-designed odhgoi opws to kikbd kanoun th douleia
 plhrestera ap'oti mporei na kataferei kaneis mesw tou XKB
 extension.

 To problhma (gia na to 8ymisw se osous den to 8ymountai,
 h osous den katebasan/dokimasan to grISOXkb-1.2) einai oti
 oi 8eseis gia ta key-syms pou mporoun na anate8oun se ena
 key-code den ftanoun gia tous xarakthres pou pairnoun tono
 kai dialytika mazi. Gia polytonika de syzhtw...

 Gia thn akribeia, mporei kaneis na grapsei tono kai
 dialytika mazi, alla mono an me kapoio high-level tropo
 (p.x. mesw kapoiou window manager menu) fortwsei ena
 apokleistika kai mono Ellhniko XKB map (pou den exei
 ka8olou Agglika dhladh), kai meta 3anagyrisei sto
 prohgoumeno key-map. Kati tetoio mporei p.x. na ginei
 mesw enos akomh koumpiou sto title-bar twn para8yrwn pou
 odhgei ena menu glwsswn plhktrologiou (kati tetoio eixa
 hdh ylopoihsei gia ton fvwm2 sta plaisia tou grISOXkb-1.2).

 Mporei (fysika) enas window manager na patch-aristei
 wste sygkekrimenos syndyasmos plhktrwn na dinei tetoia
 dynatothta. Polles tetoies "custom" lyseis einai dynates,
 alla oxi epi8ymhtes. 8eloume kati pou na einai universally
 available (parapampw p.x. sta ThinkPads ths IBM pou syntoma
 8a pwlountai kai me Linux/KDE-1.1.2: de nomizw na htan
 idiaitera dektikoi se "Greek patches" gia ton kdm h ton
 kbgndwm...)

 Apo thn allh, key-map pou gyrizei apo Agglika se Ellhnika
 kai antistrofa mesw syndyasmou plhktrwn (opws p.x. Left-Alt
 + Left-Shift) den einai dynaton na yposthri3ei kaneis --
 toulaxiston me to XKB extension tou X11R6.3 i.e. XFree
 3.3.x -- gia XFree 4.x den eimai 100% sigouros -- xarakthres
 opws p.x. to ypsilon me o3eia kai dialytika mazi.

> To KDE2 apofasise na balei Unicode. Kai oxi mono ayto, alla katargei to kikbd.

 Den exw tetoies plhrofories. O shmerinos maintainer tou
 kikbd Cristian Tibirna <tibirna at kde.org> me ton opoio exw
 syxna-pykna epikoinwnia mou eixe anaferei oti to kikbd gia
 to KDE2 einai "under heavy re-write/code-cleaning" alla
 pote (toulaxiston mexri shmera) de mou exei aneferei oti
 katargeitai. Mallista exoume symfwnhsei na mou steilei pre-
 release code tar-balls gia na dokimasw th swsth leitourgia
 ths yposthri3hs Ellhnikou plhktrologiou. Apo pou phres
 thn plhroforia oti katargeitai to kikbd;

 Me xairetismous,
 Dhmhtrhs

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