peri deb.

Yiannis Galanomatis jgalanomatis at netscape.net
Tue Apr 27 04:06:07 EEST 1999


Vasilis Vasaitis wrote:

...xexe to '3era oti 9a apantouses esy :-)

> On Sat, Apr 24, 1999 at 11:50:44PM +0300, Yiannis Galanomatis wrote:
> > mia erwthsh. As poume oti h debian einai h kalyterh dianomh, enta3ei...
> > Alla me ta debs ti ginetai? Epeidh den exw ore3h na ega9istw programmata
>

[...]

>
>   Yianni, ta pragmata den einai toso arnitika oso ta parousiazeis. Sta
> perissotera programmata, ta .deb pou iparxoun mesa sto unstable tree tou
> debian einai poli enimeromena, eno kai ta diafora projects pou dinoun
> binaries genika vgazoun .deb, an kai ontos sinithos kathisteroun se
> sxesi me ta .rpm gia RedHat. To gnome-1.0 ki ego to perimeno toso kairo
> na to vgaloun, ti na kanoume.
>

psaxnwntas sthn debian, diapistwsa tou logou to alh9es. Ontws ta paketa htan
poly enhmerwmena. Yphrxe px. h teleytaia ekdosh tou windowmaker,
tou enligthenment kai malista vre9hkan xwris poly psa3imo...
Alla to gnome eidika giati argei toso???

>
>   Epipleon, tha sou po kai to allo: to Debian mporei na exei elafros
> mikroteri diathesimotita paketwn se sxesi me to RedHat, alla o,ti
> iparxei ksereis oti den tha sou parousiasei provlimata. Exoun anaferthei
> diafores istories tromou me ta rpm sti lista, gi' auto to leo auto.

ligo dogmatiko akougetai, alla ofeilw na omologhsw oti
exw perasei polla vasana me ta rpms, kyriws apo rpms oxi
gnwstwn packagers...

> > ti diafora 9a borousan na exoun oi dianomes meta3y tous?
>
>   Oi diafores einai polles. To thema einai apla kata poson exoun simasia
> gia ton kathena. Dio dianomes mporei na diaferoun ston tipo twn paketwn
> alla kai stin oli filosofia diaxeirisis tous, tin ekkinisi tou
> sistimatos, tin topothetisi twn arxeiwn sto disko,

ooops. Eixa thn entypwsh pws h topo9ethsh twn arxeiwn sto disko phgenai
symfwna me to protypo POSIX, kai synepws oti htan koino se ola ta unices.
Mono apo ayto pou les 9a mou bainan sovares ypopsies gia thn symvatothta
twn dianomwn tou linux, p.x. kata poso symvates einai dyo rpm-based dianomes
opws h SuSE kai h RedHat.

> sti diaxeirisi tou
> sistimatos,

dhladh? ennoeis tous grafikous configurators (Xconfigurator, linuxconf, ...)

> stin epilogi twn programmatwn,

ligo poly ta pragmata den nomizw na diaferoun poly...

> etc. etc. Kata tin prosopiki
> mou apopsi, se arketous apo autous tous tomeis to Debian iperterei twn
> ipoloipwn (kai mporo na dikaiologiso tin apopsi mou).

Einai mia kalh stigmh na to kaneis. Dioti h katastash me thn debian einai kapws
9olh kai pistevw pws 9a htan xrhsimo na ginei mia syzhthsh se ayto to 9ema
mias kai h debian exei thn idiaiterothta ths san mh-kerdoskopikos organismos
kai einai krima na parameristei.

Pantws meta apo thn symvoulh sou na valw gnome kai windowmaker
pou telika me kanan na alla3w gnomh gia to linux, exw ena logo parapanw
na se akousw :-)

> Eidika de oson
> afora ti domi kai ti diaxeirisi twn paketwn, einai xronia mprosta apo
> tis dianomes pou vasizontai sto RPM. Ki otan orimasei ligo kai to apt

na ypo9esw pws h redhat evgale to rpm gia na antagwnistei thn debian?
asxhmo senario....


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