PPP, Hol & archives

Michalis Kabrianis mkab at forthnet.gr
Fri Sep 25 13:38:08 EEST 1998


On 25-Sep-98 Antonis Tsolomitis wrote:
> Gia tnv Hol twra dev kserw av 0a prepei va pw BRAVO n' va pw
> oti eivai aparadektoi. Tnv eidate tnv selida pou mas prota0nke?
> http://www.hol.gr/support/Linux.html
> OK skeftnkave to Linux. Priv to Bravo yparxei n erwtnsn:
> Gia va ev0aryvouv n' va apo0aryvouv tous veous?
> 
> Giati pnga kai to diabasa kai ta epaiksa. Kai minicom, kai
> script kai crtscts kai killall pppd kai vi (vai egrapsav kai vi
> gia kapoiov kaivourgio pou 0a psaxvotav kai me tov pico!)
> Kai oute leksn gia tov Boura pou stnv telikn eivai kai xrnstns tous.
> Isws oi av0rwpoi  skeftovtai MS-ika. Sou leei diafnmnsn twra 0a kavoume
> se sygkekrimevo pro.i.ov? To GPL tous eivai mallov agvwsta arxika.
> Kai dwstou scripting.

Prwta ap' ola den dexomai katigories gia tin HOL. Min ksexnate oloi oti ekei
yparxei to www.linux.gr kai to ftp.linux.gr XWRIS na plironei kanenas linuxas
tipota. Synepws den mporei kaneis na pei oti i HOL den ypostirizei to Linux.
Antitheta, einai o monos provider pou to ypostirizei toso poly. H EEXI exei
mono linux, kai den exei oute mia anafora stis selides tis. H Forthnet exei
kapoia linux, kai oi odigies syndesis einai sto idio styl me aytes tis HOL. 
Kai oi dyo ISPs (HOL kai FORTHnet) prospathoun na syndesoun me diktyo kapoion
xwris tin xrisi twn X-windows, to opoio den einai katakriteo. To katakriteo
einai oti den yparxei anafora se pio eykoloys tropous. Epanalambanw omws, oti
kata ti gnwmi mou, kalws yparxoun aytes oi odigies.

> 
> Bebaia sta Windows ola eivai "a breeze" you click there and you are
> connected.

Em, afou etsi einai :-) Tha allaxoume ta pragmata twra? 
> 
> Alla kai to sxetiko HOWTO tou Linux 0elei update giati ayto dnmiourgei
> problnmata kai me ta archives. O kaivourgios xrnstns blepei to HOWTO
> sto Netscape tou kai sou leei fiakse script twra. Dev lew
> xrnsimo to HOWTO alla kai dyo grammes gia to oti pia yparxouv
> eukola ergaleia syvdesns xreiazovtai.

Swsta, alla giati den epikoinwneis me ton syggrafea tou HOW-TO? H akoma
kalytera, as ftiaksoume emeis ena HOW-TO me titlo Xwin-ISP.How-to kai na ta
anaferoume. Den einai tragika dyskolo. Egw protithemai na to ksekinisw, an
yparxei allos gia boitheia as mou steilei proswpiko e-mail.

>  Ta archives twra exw tnv ais0nsn oti eivai gia tous palioterous tou xwrou.
> Gia autous pou exouv tnv autopepn0nsn oti mia plnroforia pou 0a brouv 0a 
> kataferouv va tnv aksiopoinsouv. O kaivourgios sto Linux 0elei
> mia perissotero proswpikn bon0eia kai kala kavouv kai rwtave.
> Egw exw para polles fores grapsei se paidia gia ta ellnvika parolo
> pou eivai xilioeipwmevo 0ema kai malista sto diko tous email (kai oxi stn
> lista gia va mnv tnv fortwvw). Aytoi argotera 0a grapsouv ta idia
> stous epomevous kaivourgious kai tote 0a mporesouv va aksiopoinsouv kai ta
> archives. Kata tn gvwmn mou loipov kakws fwvazoume gia ta archives
> se kapoiov pou molis ebale Linux kai exei trella0ei pou dev blepei akoma
> diktyo.

Nai more, den to eipa gia kako. Htan hint gia tis epomenes fores :-) H syndesi
omos me ISP einai toso apli (xisp kai telos) pou pragmatika, den xreiazetai
idiaiteres eksigiseis (opos alla themata gia compilation i missing libraries ta
opoia anaferontai men sta archives, alla einai poly pio dyskolo na ta
katalabeis kai na ta fereis sta metra sou, opote einai logiko na stelnontai
tetoies erwtiseis).

> 
> Telos sto serial HOWTO sto kefalaio 9 yparxouv
> kapoies plnrofories gia tnv setserial. Polles fores n syvdesn
> mesw Linux eivai argn se sxesn me tnv syvdesn twv Windows.
> Sto parapavw snmeio eksngntai o logos alla kai ti prepei va kavei
> kaveis gia va to dior0wsei kai va pngaivei to Linux tou grngorotera
> apo oti pave ta Windows.

Svsto, kai ayto prepei na diadothei PARA POLY giati dimiourgeitai i entyposi
oti to Linux einai argo stis syndeseis tou.

> 
> Avtwvns.
> --

Filika,
Michalis Kabrianis
mkabrian at acropolis.gr
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