A tale that wasn't right

Costas Christoyannis christog at cti.gr
Mon Jun 22 19:40:18 EEST 1998


Me aformh ta teleftaia mails/threads (h synexish twn opoiwn apagorefthke
apo ton listarxo), diapistwnontas oti afenos yparxei xasma agefyrwto
meta3y twn apopsewn twn dikwn mou kai twn apopsewn ths syntriptikhs
pleiopshfias [1] ths listas (95% eipate?) kai afeterou oi apopseis pou
e3efrasa egw kai alloi enoxloun thn pleiopshfia (aka 95%), kai
yperfortwsan adika tosa mailboxes [2] 8a h8ela na kanw orismenes
teleftaies [bl. epilogo] parathrhseis:

a) To pososto symmetoxhs se threads ths lista den dhlwnei se kamia
periptwsh (imho) to poso to thread einai sxetiko me to periexomeno
kai to skopo ths. Den einai liga ta mails me erwthseis pou exoun
ginei sth lista sxetika me to Linux kai den exoun apanth8ei ka8olou
(epeidh den yphrxe kapoios pou 3erei na apanthsei h pou bariotan na
to kanei?). Oute einai liga ta threads pou oloklhrwnontai me 2 mails
(erwthsh - apanthsh). To gegonos oti sto thread symmetexei pososto
mikrotero tou 50% ths listas den nomizw na shmainei oti to syzhtoumeno
8ema einai asxeto gia th lista.

b) To o,ti to security den afora th lista den mporesa na to dw kapou.
To 8ema security einai apo ta fundamentals enos leitourgikou 
systhmatos [3] ara fantazomai kai gia to Linux. Ektos an h lysh sta
problhmata pou prokyptoun apo elleipsh asfaleias einai na katafevgoume
se dikhgorous kai dikasthria (kai kala an yparxoun logs, twn opoiwn h
gnhsiothta mporei efkola na amfisbhth8ei, an den yparxoun kanoume
mhnyseis kat' agnwstwn kai lysame ta security problems tou mhxanhmatos?).

c) Einai fanero oti syzhth8hkan 8emata entelws asxeta me to Linux. H
syzhthsh tous omws efere sthn epifaneia 8emata pou sxetizontai amesa me
to Linux, opws ta secure levels [4], h accept() [5], IPC problems ktl.
Kai ekplhssomai oti kaneis den ekane ton kopo na asxolh8ei me afta,
enw anti8eta ekplhktos diavasa oti to 8ema "security" gia to linux
exei thn idia sxesh oso h Java me to Mountial, h sthn kalyterh periptwsh
einai ena genikotera 8ema internet kai oxi kati pou afora amesa tous
linux users [6].

d) H antimetwpish diaforwn 8ematwn me diaforetika metra kai sta8ma
 (p.x. h katapathsh twn paraklhsewn tou footer einai ka8hmerino fainomeno
 xwris flames tou typou Read the fuckin' footer apo th mia, diatypwsh
 eirwnikwn sxoliwn [7] apo thn allh) mou prokalese ena ais8hma
 apotropiasmou.

Kata synepeia, den krinw skopimo na parameinw melos ths listas kai
na apalla3w to 95% twn syndromhtwn ths apo ta kbytes mou kai tis
enoxlhtikes apopseis mou pou poly pi8anon einai na xaloun kai to
kyros ths listas. Ws ek toutou tyxon sxolia, flames, eirwnies klp
mhn ta steilete sth lista alla me proswpiko email. Allwste outws h
allws reply sto mail mou 8a einai pantelws asxeto me ta endiaferonta
ths listas kata koinh paradoxh.

Sygnwmh gia ta 4 teleftaia kbytes mou.
Costas Christoyannis

Referendum
[1] "Kai apo thn stigmh pou yparxoun melh pou enoxlountai einai ypoxrewsh
 mou san list-owner na epembw. Sto thread simetixan oute to 5% twn melwn
 ths listas" -- Ioannou Ioannis [Mon, 22 Jun 1998 18:02:13]
[2] "giati dhl. aytoi na prepei na gemizoun ta mailbox toy allou 95%"
[3] Andrew S. Tanenbaum - Modern Operating Systems (C) 1992, Prentice Hall
[4] "anarotiemai pote to linux 8a apoktisei securelevels" -- Fotopoulos
 Ilias [Sun, 21 Jun 1998 23:19:18]
[5] "h accept() sto linux epistrefei otan steileis to syn|ack, ti 8a ginei
 an ayto to syn|ack xa8ei?" -- Fotopoulos Ilias [Sun, 21 Jun 1998 23:19:18]
[6] "Katw apo ayto to skeptiko tha mporousame na piasoume psilokoubentoula
 epi kathe epistitoy sto Internet" -- Ioannou Ioannis [Mon, 22 Jun 1998
 08:51:15]
[7] KoD> Ayto apo meroys moy 8a einai to teleytaio posting
  roryt> Den htan anagkh na ginei oute to proto :-(


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