ΑΠ: ΑΠ: ΑΠ: Kai omws! To 2.5

[Leonidas Theodoulidis]

Nai alla h IBM htan monopolio alla den eixe thn ikanothta na epekta8ei se
allous

tomeis psyxagwgias, diaskedashs, plhroforishs. Opws twra h intel. Einai
monopolio
sta CPU. E kai? Prokalh vlavh se ena mono tomea ths agoras kai den prospa8ei
na epekta8ei poly pio makrya apo afton. Me alla logia den mou fenetai toso
apeilitiko
to mopopwlio mias etaireias hardware - anatrepetai efkolotera, kai den
epekteinetai
efkola se allous tomeis.

Mhn to les auto giati 3ereis polu kala pws oi microprocessors 8a
xrhsimopoiountai sta panta (an den xrhsimopoiountai hdh), apo autokinhta
mexri mi3er kai apo thlefwna mexri diasthmoploia. Malista mia tetoia
kuriarxia kat' eme einai safws pio anhsuxitikh, ka8ws to hardware prouparxei
tou software. Diaforetikh arxitektonikh 8a sumaine epanasxediasmos se
mikroterh h megaluterh klimaka tou leitourgikou. Kai mou prosfereis edw ena
akomh epixeirhma. Giati den anhsyxoume gia to monopwlio ths Intel; Mou
fainetai polu upopto.

Anti8eta h microsnot (ante, ms) an katakthsei ton
browser borei
na epivalei tis dikes ths me8odous epikoinwnias kai genika na monopolhsei to
internet.
Afto shmainei oti borei na prow8ei opoious 8elei. M'alla logia katakta kai
to
e-borio.
Etsi opws epekteinetai kai sta media, se liga xronia ola ta mesa
epikoinwnias 8a

anhkoun sthn M$. Sou fenetai kalo?

Sigoura oxi. Omws to Internet den einai kati sugekrimeno kai den mporei na
kuriarxh8ei apo kanenan. Akribws giati einai polysun8eto, sugentrwnei polles
texnologies, pollous endiaferomenous kai apaitei sunergasies. To paixnidi
den paizetai se auto to epipedo. Ta monopwlia einai parwxhmenos tropos
au3hshs ths epirrohs kai ths kerdoforias. Kai na 'sai sigouros oti h MS to
gnwrizei kala auto. Aplws opws oles oi etaireies tou kosmou prospa8ei na
au3hsei to kommati ths pittas pou ths analogei kai kala kanei. Kai su sth
8esh ths to idio 8a ekanes nomizw. Des loipon ton eauto sou ws pelath. Den
goustareis ta Win; Me geia sou me xara sou. Doulepse to Linux. Arkesou s'
auto. Toulaxisto se dhmosio "xwro" opws einai auth edw h lista. Dhladh ki
egw pou agorasa kai xrhsimopoiw Toyota prepei na brizw thn Nissan;

> 8a h8eles kai to Linux se liga xronia etsi; Den
> nomizw.

Den katalava, giati oxi?
To linux DEN einai akoma ena allo leitourgiko. Einai ena *eley8ero*
leitourgiko,
opote
8a to krineis me alla kritiria.

Asxhma 8a htan to eley8ero logismiko na ginotan kanonas sthn plhroforikh?
8a htan san ena kratos na prosefere dwrean ths vasikes yphresies: Morfwsh
kai
paideia,
peri8alpsh, epikoinwnies, metafores, katoikia, klp.

Polu kalo gia na 'nai alh8ino!

Etsi to linux dinei to dikaiwma ston opoiadhpote na xrhshmopoihsei tis
vasikes
kai oxi mono
dynantothes tou pc tou, apotrepwntas etsi thn dhmiourgia taxewn xrhstwn,
analoga

me tis oikonomikes tous dynatothes. Kai mh mou peis pws oloi boroume na
agorazoume
software. Ena Unix kanei ~500.000, ena photoshop kanei ~350.000 gia
paradeigma.

Dhladh pisteueis pws mporoun oi xrhstes tou Linux se sunergasia na ftia3oun
kapote ena PhotoShop; Proswpika den to pisteuw. Pote den 8a eixe, akoma ki
an ftiaxnotan kati tetoio thn omoiogeneia kai to "desimo" pou exei mia
efarmogh pou 3ekinhse ws ena project se kapoioa etaireia pou apasxolei
epaggelmaties programmatistes kai oxi xompistes pou epeidh o kairos einai
broxeros eipan na grapsoun ligo kwdika na perasei h wra. Kaka ta psemata,
oles oi megales dhmiourgies ftiaxnontai "kata monas". Akoma kai to Linux den
to 3ekinhse kammia epitroph. Enas an8rwpos to 3ekinhse. Isws se kapoia allh
koinwnia...

3) To peri8oriko kerdous enos distributor einai poly, ma para poly mikrotero
apo
ths M$.
   Gia fantasou, me 5 - 15 xiliarika pairneis ena megalo paketo, me ena poly
megalo
   manual pou borei na ftanei tis 700 selides, support, klp. Pou to vlepeis
to
kerdos?
   Sou lew oti mono to manual na dinan, borousan na to poulousan zhtwntas
arketa
xrhmata.
   Epipleon oi distros xrhmatodotoun projects tou linux.

Den katalaba. Yparxei kerdos h oxi; Mikro megalo den exei shmasia. Kai h MS
otan htan mikro psari eixe mikra kerdh. Gia thn psuxh ths giagias tous
prosferoun autes tis uphresies; H pisteueis sthn upar3h altrouistwn kai
malista stis HPA; Ki an akoma den exoun pesei ta korakia einai giati to
Linux twra arxise na pairnei ta panw tou. Katse na abgatisei kai blepoume.
Tous Amerikanous den exeis ma8ei; Apo thn muga 3ugi bgazoun kai 8a glutwsei
to Linux;


> Alla na teleiwsw thn fluaria mou me kati pio praktiko. Pragmati h lista
> einai meros filikwn suzhthsewn.

Ara ypo8etw oti den exeis provlhma na lemw kanena asteio pou na mhn 8avei
thn aftokratoria tou gates, e?

Auto twra ti to '8eles; Atuxhs eirwneia.
Pantws mhn me pare3hgeis an kanw ton sunhgoro tou diabolou. To kanw gia na
ginetai paixnidi.

> Poso filikes mporoun na einai omws, otan
> mpaineis na rwthseis kati h na diabaseis ta problhmata pou eixan oi alloi
> kai telika katanalwnesai sto 8apsimo ths MS, twn NT kai tou Explorer.

La8os, gia na mhn pw psema. Otan zhtas voh8eia pairneis voh8eia, kai mhn to
arneisai. Otan zhtas syzhthsh exeis syzhthsh. Otan 8es na vriseis thn M$,
vriskeis allous na
symfwnun kai na syn-8avoun.
Egw panta otan zhthsa voh8eia, thn elava. Kai to ektimw para poly afto.

Ki egw opote xreiasthke me boh8hsan pragmati. Alla uparxoun kai periptwseis,
pou einai malista perissoteres, opou mpainw gia na diabasw ta problhmata twn
allwn, gia kainourgies ekdoseis programmatwn k.l.p. gia na ma8ainw. To
loipon telika auto pou ma8ainw einai poso mapa einai ta 98 se sxesh me ta
95. (Parepiptwntws, den exw akousei megaluterh anohsia. Apo tote pou balame
sth douleia mou ta 98 sxedon ola ta problhmata twn 95 e3afanisthkan. H
sugrish edw ginetai throumenwn twn analogiwn, mesa dhladh sthn oikogeneia
twn Win).

> Epitelous katantaei ahdia.

Giati? Egw to apolamavanw. Exw xasei ekatontades wres dior8wnontas
katastrofes
pou mou prokalousan ta proionta M$, exw xasei dekades wres ergasias logw
kollhmatwn
(sou exei tyxei na kanei crash to pc otan patas to SAVE sto excel meta apo 4
wres doulias?) exw vare8ei na vlepw pantou thn lexh "microsoft" (mesa se ena
difyllo metrhsa
54 (penhnta tesseris) fores thn lexh microsoft - Microsoft Windows with
Microsoft Plus
and Microsoft Explorer. Microsoft Word, part Of Microsoft Office for
Microsoft
Windows
with Microsoft Internet Explorer. Microsoft, Microsoft, Microsoft, Microsoft
THN
SYXA8HKA PIA! ELEOS! Les kai mas kanoun plysh egefalou).
Xwria oti niw8w prosvolh ths proswpikothtas mou na me voh8aei o super-azor
na
dior8wsw
ena provlhma mou sto Word. Mallon h microsoft nomizei oti olos o kosmos
einai
ena
matso hli8iwn.

Kat' arxhn mhn xrhsimopoieis tetoia paradeigmata giati kaneis den se
pisteuei. Esu mporei ekeinh thn epoxh na hsoun neos xrhsths twn Win h na mhn
eixes empeiria sto sthsimo enos mhxanhmatos h na eixes problhma sto hardware
h na uphrxan ena swro alloi logoi apo tous ametrhtous pou sumbainoyn sthn
plhroforikh kai den sumbainoun gia paradeigma sthn anorganh xhmeia. H
plhroforikh kai ta problhmata einai 3adelfia. Ena pragma 8a sou pw. Diabase
ta problhmata twn xrhstwn tou Linux se auth th lista. 8a deis oti se
kapoious emfanizontai apisteuta pragmata. Ftaiei to Linux gi' auto;
Kata deuteron. Giati tsatizesai me ton super-azor opws ton onomazeis; Kai
sthn dikh mas lista uparxoun melh pou sunh8ws boh8oun allous. Autoi oi
xrhstes loipon, me thn idia logikh, mas pernane gia hli8ious;

Epitelous vrhka ena meros na fwnaxw thn aganakthsh mou, estw vrizontas.

Mono pou edw, exw thn entupwsh pws den erxomaste gia na 3espasoume. Isws
bebaia na kanw kai la8os...

Lew egw, gia katse re file, pioa einai h microsnot pou 8a apofasisei kai 8a
epivalei
thn xrhsh twn windoze me thn via (via = stamathma ekdoshs programmatwn)?

An milas gia to DOS, giati les "stamathma"; Afou e3akolou8ei na ufistatai.

Giati prepei na ypakouw kai na akolou8w oti prostazei h M$?

Ma giati to paineis etsi; Kaneis den se upoxrewnei. Thn douleia tous kanoun
oi an8rwpoi. Eleu8eros antagwnismos uparxei. Den katalaba pou einai to
eglhma.

 H aganakthsh mou
koryfw8hke me ta 98 pou eixan ton kata thn gnwmh mou frikto exploder.

Xwris auton ton E3ellhnismeno "frixto" Explorer se plhroforw pws sthn Ellada
to Internet den 8a eixe diado8ei toso, an auto shmainei kati. Ti ekane h
Netscape; H mhpws einai ellassonos shmasias to zhthma ths glwssas;

Ws edw. Den 8a asxolh8w allo me ta eborika OSes. Thelw kati eley8ero, to
opoio
na metavalletai analoga me tis anages twn xrhstwn, kai oxi me tous kanones
tou marketing.

Sumfwnw apoluta. Mexri omws na oloklhrw8ei kai na wrimasei kati tetoio fulaw
sto deutero surtari to CD tou emporikou OS. Na, se ligo 8a ftia3w mia
mousikh sullogh se CD me thn boh8eia tou. Tsaka-tsaka. Giati an einai na
mazoxizomai me to "eleu8ero" kai na mou bgei h pisth me 150 mail
erwtapanthseis, kalutera na to ftia3w se kaseta sto Hi-Fi. Etsi einai file
mou, o ka8enas sto eidos tou. Egw 8elw na eimai praktikos an8rwpos. Ti sou
kanei th douleia; Auto na xrhsimopoieis. Mhn to kaneis 8rhskeia. Oti ginetai
8rhskeia kai fanatismos den m' afora. An einai na sthsoume kanenan
mail-server, ela dw Linux-aki. Twra se xreiazomai. Auta pou ftunw stous
allous pou einai PAOK xasei-kerdisei, pou einai islam kai 3ero pswmi na ta
kanw o idios; Euxaristw den 8a parw.


> to briskw dokimo, dhmokratiko kai sigoura polu praktiko. Yparxoun kai oi
poroi
> tou diktuou filoi mou. As mhn tous spatalhsoume 8abontas thn MS.

To 8apsimo ths M$ einai psyxagwgia kai epeishs me8odos hremias. Den boreis
na fantasteis ti anakoufish niw8w otan vgazw exw olon to kahmo pou exw gia
thn M$. Doulia, diaskedash, psyxagwgia, ola prosferontai se ena kanali!
Den to vriskeis fantastiko?

Gia sena isws na einai. Gia mena omws pou eimai o apodekths, pou to
ufistamai einai aforhta kourastiko kai mizero.


> opws sthn 8eatrikh epi8ewrhsh pou 8aboun dh8en tous politikous...

Oi politikes epi8ewrhseis einai h deyterh mou megalyterh ikanopoihsh...
An kai stis politikes epi8ewrhseis den paragetai ergo alla mono
psyxikh ikanopihsh. Kati einai ki' afto...

Mprabo, to 'pes monos sou. To zhthma s' authn thn lista omws einai na
paragei prwtistws ergo kai oxi mono psuxikh ikanopoihsh. Auto sou lew tosh
wra. Egw erxomai sth lista gia na ma8w kai su mou les "edw diaskedazw". Ti
na pw; Sugroush anagwn...

Ma den borw na katalavw giati yperaspizesai ton sevasmo pros thn M$, ton
megalytero
antipalo tou eley8erou logismikou.... H8h kai e8ima 8a mou peis...

Den uperaspizomai ton sebasmo pros thn MS. Thn exw xesmenh. Gia mena einai
mia aformh. An den htan h MS 8a htan h Intel h Sun h den 3erw gw poios
allos. Kai h aformh pou mou dinetai einai akribws na antiparate8w ston
fanatismo kai sthn ka8eth diatupwsh. Exw kourastei na akolou8w omades,
proswpa, idees, markes, kommata, mexri na apodeixtei, sthn fourtouna dhladh,
oti ola htan paparia. E3w apo ton xoro h pio kalh antipoliteush. Mesa sto
paixnidi h pio sklhrh kubernhsh. Den pisteuw loipon stis tampeles kai ara
den pisteuw kai sto Linux, etsi opws to 8eteis toulaxiston. Apla to
xrhsimopoiw, prospa8w na to ma8w perissotero, giati diakrinw panw tou merika
alh8ina diamantia. Tipota perissotero. Sthn prwth kakotopia eimai etoimos na
to egataleipsw. Den to uphretw. Auto apaitw  na me uphretei.

Gamoto... An xreokopouse h microsoft 8a borouses na me eleges nekro8afth...
Mehri tote lege mikro8afth...

Kalo!!!


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