KATW TO VI!

[Aris Sotiropoulos]

Mono gia tous editor...

Yparxei kai o emacs.
Den 8elw na arxisei kamia diamaxh VI vs EMACS.
Gia ta xrwmata to opoia aneferes (fantazomai oti les kati tou styl "allo
xrmwa oi entoles ths C++ apo tis metablhtes klp.") auta ginontai kai me
EMACS kai me VIM.

Kapoios pou exei synh8hsei se periballon san ths C++ sto DOS mporei na
grapsei se EMACS kai na exei kai ta xrwmatakia tou kai na kanei compile
eite mesa apo ton idio ton EMACS eite apo kapoio anoixto Xterm pou 8a exei
dipla.

Enw o EMACS exei terasties dynatothtes, mporei na xrhsimpoih8ei kai apo
kapoion pou den 3erei na tis xrhsimopoihsei. Katalabainw auto pou les me
ton VI kai tous arxarious. Ontws enas neos xrhsths tou VI ta briskei ligaki
skoura. Alla an ma8ei ligo, ola ginontai poly eukola. Kai den lew na
grapseis kanena project me VI (an kai to'xw kanei :) ) alla gia ena aplo
edit enos arxeiou einai o,ti prepei. Kai edw sto Linux einai syxna ta edit
se diafora arxeiakia.

Auta :)

Aris Sotiropoulos

John Galanomatis wrote:

> Na mhn thelw na xekolhsw apo to VI??? Protimw na mhn thelw na xekolhsw
> apo ta egasthria fysikhs tou TEI mou!!
> Siga mhn katsw prosta se mia mounth staxtia othoni na akouw ta
> beeeeeeeeeeeeep
> molis pathsw lathos koumpi. Ante se 20 lepta na vrw to exit, 40 lepta na
> vrw to save,
> 60 lepta na vrw to load. Nai, allh doulia den exw na kanw. Kathe mera
> peirazw ta
> scriptakia mou. An ithela 1 wra gia na allaxw mia rythmish tha eixa
> akoma ton
> pyrhna 0.001! Kai estw egw exw porosh me to Linux kai ton mathainw. Omws
>
> exw metadwsei to Linux se kapoious filous mou. Kai aftous na tous valw
> na
> trexoun VI? Me doulevete? Tha eixan svhsei to Linux (an borousan) apo
> thn prwth mera.
> Ante twra na matheis to Vi se kapoion pou exei mathei sthn kaloperash me
> ton
> m$do$ editor (kaloperash to edit?! ohmigawd! ti katantisa na lew!).
>
> Vevaia kai to Linux sthn arxh mou fanhke dyskoloutsiko sthn rythmish
> (oxi fanhke, einai)
> alla meta to agapisa, KYRIWS giati einai eleythero (oxi dwrean, dwrean
> einai kai
> ta windoze NT - exw perasei apo m$do$ 5, 6, 6.2, win3.1, win3.1gr,
> win95, win95b,
> win98, winNT, winNTsp3 xwris na plhrwse oute mia dekara) erxetai se
> amesh
> antithesh me to emporiko software pou sta xeria etairias tha borouse na
> metatrepsei
> thn plhroforikh se ena aperanto monopolio (vlepe syberifora gnwsths
> etairias) kai
> tha katesteile opoiadhpote parektroph h prospathias kainotomias. Epeishs
> to Linux
> exei afthono service kai "customer" support kai aste tous allous tous
> malakes na lene.
> Egw apo thn lista tou linux exw parei vohtheia gia oti thelhsa. Amesh,
> grhgorh, filikh
> "exyphrethsh". Xilies fores kalytero support apo tis etaireies. Mia fora
> esteila email
> gia plhrofories se etaireia, to esteile sto /dev/null. Alles fores mono
> pou den me diwxnoun
> otan zhtaw voi8eia. Kai osoi den se vrisoun, tha sou poun "den xerw".
> Afou exeis
> perimenei 2 wres gia na rwthseis. Epeishs to Linux einai poly exypno
> leitourgiko.
> M'aresei pou fortwnei ola ta modules/services/drivers kata thn ekkinhsh,
> opote
> den xreiazetai na perimenw 1,5-2 lepta (swsta diavasate, 2 lepta) gia na
>
> xekinhsei to GUI - Mesa se 2 sec exoun xekinhsei ta X me to afterstep.
> Ephshs to command line einai plhrestato. Ase pou sou epitrepei na
> allaxeis kati perissotero
> apo to wallpaper. Gia na mhn anaferw ta anexhghta twn windz. Oloklhro
> peridiko
> episthmonikhs fantasias tha borouse na grafei apo mia makroxronh
> empeiria enos
> windoze user. Dyo paradeigmata: Enw hmoun sto netscape kai diavaza mia
> istioselida, vlepo ena mynhma na me proeidopoiei gia tous porous. 10%!!
> Pote
> phgan etsi? Ma den etrexa tipota. Alla synexisan. 6%, 5%, 4%, klp mehri
> pou
> eida to mynhma gia oti _prepei_ na kleisw ena parathyro. Ekleisa ena.
> Sto 50% oi
> poroi. Wraia eipa. 30% oi poroi! Oops. Xana ston pato. Kai ou to
> kathexhs mehri
> pou anagasthka na kanw ena wraio restart ths epifaneias ergasias
> (xanontas fysika
> thn sydesi moy, klp). Poios etrwge synexeia ta resources? Den xerw.
> Eseis?
> Deytero: To fd1 mou apo B: ginetai E: !! Anoigw ena dos box na dw ti
> pezetai,
> grafw a: kai (ti allo) ...kollise - entelws. Borei kai to linux na
> kollaei, alla oxi
> se toso HLITHIES katastaseis. Kai pote xanontas dedomena. Eite sthn
> ekkinhsh,
> eite termatismo, eitai se paixnidia (ps: ena 3dfx tade paketo pou thelei
> to quake2 pou to vriskw?). Epishs epitelous eida ena leitourgiko pou
> xerizetai exypna to swap space!.
>
> Twra to Vi giati na to matho? Ti na to kanw? Egw thelw na programmatisw,
> oxi
> na pedeyomai me ton editor. Pio efkola ekana ta prwta mou vhmata ston
> assembler
> ton palio kalo kairo (oxi kai TOSO palio) para ston VI. Kai gia na sas
> thn bw, sas lew
> oti o agaphmenos mou editor sto dos htan to IDE ths borland pascal. Eixe
> ta panta.
> Xrwmata opws ithla, parathyra, Undo, eykolia, ta panta.
>
> Anti gia na xwdevoume wres na mathenoume editors, den fiaxnete ena
> EFKOLO perivallon programmatismou na boroun kai oi pio aploi xrhstes na
> anaptyxoun efarmoges? Pws tha anaptyxthei to Linux? Mhpws etsi den
> periorizete tous programmatistes se mia mikrh
> omada hackers kai computer gurus?
>
> DWSTE THN C++ STON LAO!
>
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