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[Sifalakis Manolis (WILLY)]

Koxaras Aris wrote:
> 
> AHAHAHA! ma eisai sovaros!?!? h ariadne (pou xrhsimopoiei sendmail
> gia logous asfaleias) einai to systhma pou den exei spastei pote ma pote

    ^^^^^^^^
 Filarako mou egw den thimame na ypostiri3a pote oti i ariadne einai
secure dyktio (xwris ayto na simainei oti den tha mporouse na ginei) ,
oute eipa oti emeis xrisimopoioume sendmail gia logous security !!!

Otan diatheteis mia ferrari kai odigeis stin ethniki me 50 (gia ton
opoidipote logo), ayto den simainei oti to aytokinito einai mapa. 
Antitheta to aytokinito mporei na paei kai me 250 alla an then 
apofasisei o odigos na to odigisei se tetoies taxytites.....!!! den
prokeitai na to kanei to aytokinito apo mono tou. Etsi kai me to 
sendmail tha mporousa na sou ferw paradeigma ena swro sites pou einai
arketa secure kai xrisimopoioun sendmail (p.x. po1.cert.org).

 Episeis opws isws antilamvanesai , an "spasei" kaneis mia mixani se ena
site ayto den simainei oti i "hack-ia" egine apo to sendmail (akoma kai
an i hack-ia egine mesw mail), oute oti i sygkekrimeni mixani mporei na
eixe ena secure sendmail settarismeno.

 Epipleon epeidi to thema ariadne xwraei poli syzitisi kai den nomizw 
oti tha eixan ore3i na to akousoun oloi sti lista , den tha epektathw 
kai tha sou pw mono 2-3 pragmatakia...
 1- Apo olous tou providers i ariadne einai i moni pou den isxiristikai
   pote oti einai secure kai oute thelise pote mexri twra na efarmosei
   kapoia sovari security politiki. Ayto gia diaforous logous enas ek 
   twn opoiwn einai i mexri twra politiki kai diaxeirisi tis. Epipleon 
   an eisai ligo palios sto kourbeti tha exeis isws akousei tin frasi
   "emeis goustaroume tous hackers , den tous kynigame" , apo atoma
   e3' aitias twn opoiwn exeis isws simera esy idea apo diktya.

 2- An thes na ertheis kamia fora apo edw , na sou dei3w sto arxeio
   posoi crackers "mpikan" edw , kai posoi apo aytous kataferan na 
   perasoun xwris xwris na katagrafoun .

 3- Yparxoun atoma stin ariadne pou mathane e3aitias aytis tis politikis
   pou proanefera , kai sti synexeia douleyane stin KYP sto strato !!!!
   Esy mou 3ereis apo security me ti asxoleisai ??? .Arkeisai mipws
   me to na spas mixanes sto ariadne ? :-)

> sthn istoria tou ellhnikou internet :)))))))))))))

   ^^^^^^
 Mallon gia ayti tin istoria esy exeis mesanyxta :-).

> Tespa, otan vlepei admins apo providers mh tous dineis kai poly
> megalh shmasia, oi perisoteroi den exoun idea apo security..

   ^^^^^^^
 Isws giati enw kapoioi malakizontai kathimerinws prospathontas na
 spasoun mixanes , kapoioi alloi , prospathoun na parexoun dyktiakes
 ypiresies , kai isws na sprw3oun tin texnologia ligo pio mprosta ...!!!
 Alla ti na ginei etsi einai i zwi ...:-).


> 
> Seeya,
> mastoras at hack.gr


		"Filika "	Manolis
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