glossaria kai metafraseis

[Simos Xenitellis]

Την Σαβ, 2002-01-19 στις 13:16, ο/η Panayotis Pakos έγραψε:
> Eida to glossari tou gnome, stin topothesia pou mas parepempse o
> Simos. Exei ginei polli douleia, alla nomizw oti den einai kalo na

Pistebw oti xreiazete sxoliasmos kai jana-koitagma stin epilogi tvn
orwn.  To %25 poy paremeine einai oroi poy ypirje shmantiki diskolia sti
metafrasi.

> proxwrisoume xwris na kseroume pou pame. Gi afto:
> 1) Simo, symfwneis na proxwrisoume sti full metafrasi tou gnome
> glossary?
> p.x. sto unit
> 
> #. "A logical operation combining the values of two bits (0, 1) or
> two Boolean values (false, true) that returns a value of 1 (true) if
> both input values are 1 (true) and returns a 0 (false) otherwise. "
> msgid "AND"
> msgstr ""
> 
> na metafrasoume ton oro pou dinetai sto msgid kai ti diefkrinisi pou
> proigeitai.

Poly kali erwtisi.
To parapanw 8ema anakini8ike sti lista gnome-i18n prin apo merikous
mines. Ta "glossary" einai kalo (an einai dynaton), an exoun
perigrafikes plirofories gia tin epilogi tou orou, me skopo na
boithisoun to metafrasti. Ostoso, mias kai xrisimopoioume ti morfi .PO
gia tin apo8ikefsi tou "glossary", yparxei problima sto poy 8a
apo8ikefsoume tin epipleon pliroforia.

Mia lisi einai, se periptwsi poy 8eloume na metafrasoume to sxolio (ta
sxolia sta arxeia .PO jekinoun me "#. "), na topo8etoume ena deftero
sxolio to opoio na einai grammeno sta ellinika. To deftero sxolio, an
yparxei, 8a einai sti kwdikopoiisi tis glwssas metafrasis kai 8a
metafrazei to arxiko aggliko sxolio. O skopos einai oti poly efkola me
ena programma entolvn 8a mporesoyme na ejagoume tis aparaitites
plirofories gia na ftiaxtei ena lejiko. To lejiko mporei na einai se
XML/SGML kai me katalilla "stylesheet" na metatrapei se
HTML/PostScript(tm)/PDF poly poly efkola.
An xreiazete epipleon sxolio gia parapanw plirofories gia tin epilogi
toy ellinikoy orou, proteinw na yparxei ena trito sxolio poy 8a
apefthinete stous metafrastes.
Etsi, gia to parapanw paradeigma:

#. "A logical operation combining the values of two bits (0, 1) or
two Boolean values (false, true) that returns a value of 1 (true) if
both input values are 1 (true) and returns a 0 (false) otherwise. "
#. "Μια λογική λειτουργία που συνδυάζει τις τιμές δύο bit (0, 1) ή δύο
Μπουλιανών τιμών (ψευδές, αληθές) και επιστρέφει τη τιμή 1 (αληθές) αν
και οι δύο τιμές εισόδου είναι 1 (αληθές), διαφορετικά επιστρέφει 0
(ψευδές)."
#. "Λόγω του ότι στα ελληνικά βιβλία παραμένει αμετάφραστο, το
διατηρούμε αμετάφραστο."
msgid "AND"
msgstr "AND"

Shmeiwsi 1: Ta sxolia prepei na katalambanoun mia grammi!
Shmeivsh 2: An den kanoume elliniki metafrasi toy sxoliou (deftero
sxolio) kai 8eloume na baloume sxolio gia to metafrasti (trito sxolio),
prepei na topo8etisoume ena "keno deftero sxolio". Gia paradeigma:

	#. "A logical operation combining the values of two bits (0, 1) or
	two Boolean values (false, true) that returns a value of 1 (true) if
	both input values are 1 (true) and returns a 0 (false) otherwise."
	#. ""
	#. "Λόγω του ότι στα ελληνικά βιβλία παραμένει αμετάφραστο, το
	διατηρούμε αμετάφραστο."
	msgid "AND"
	msgstr "AND"
Shmeivsi 3: Ta " sta sxolia ta topo8etoume gia omoiomorfia. Einai efkolo
me ena programma entolwn na entopisei an yparxei/den yparxei. Kalo einai
na ta topo8etoume.

> 
> 2) Kosta, symfwneis to elliniko glossari tou gnome na einai
> "stand-alone"? Na teleiwnoume ena ena ta glossaria kai na ginei i
> enopoiisi sto telos.

Proteinw ta "glossary" na yparxoun se anejartiti morfi (mh-enoopiimeni)
otan metafrazontai kai sto telos na ennopoioyntai me aftomata tropo.
Diaforetika programmata (GNOME/KDE/OpenOffice/Mozilla) epilegoun ligo
diaforetika merikoys basikoys oroys. Episeis, to ka8ena glossary mporei
na ananewnete anejartita apo to allo.
8a grapsw perissotera gia afta sto telos.

> 
> Opoios allos exei asxolithei me to thema kai thelei na proteinei
> kati, na to pei, mipws etsi ginei i douleia mas efkoloteri.

Ta parapanw epi tvn 3 sxolivn einai "RFC, request for comments". To
skeptiko mou einai oti se periptvsi poy sto mellon allajoume ti morfi
tvn arxeio apo .PO se kati allo, na mporoume poly efkola me ena
programma entolwn na kanoume ti metafora xwris epwdines metatropes.

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