Herlug digest, Vol 1 #124 - 16 msgs

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N. P. wrote:
>>
 >>Antimetwpizw to 8ema twn licences me th filosofia tou
>>opadou. Auth h apoyh pou leei oti "prepei na exeis ya3ei polu kati gia 
>>na mporeis na milas" einai malakia. To 8ema einai na fanatisteis uper h' 
>>kata kapoias apoyhs, dioti mono tote 8a thn NIWSEIS pragmatika, 8a 
>>apokthseis ena eidos epignwshs ths idias sou ths licence, auto pou oi 
>>giapwnezoi lene "Unatzi"
> 
> Kai meta katebainei kai to pigouinaki (san agio pneuma) kai sou dinei mia adeia
> GPL (8eia fotisi) kai meta anebaineis ston ourano kai briskeis o 8eo( F BSD)...

Allo h filosofia tou opadou genika, allo h filosofia tou opadou mias 
8rhskeias. O opados gia ton opoio milaw egw, pairnei to meros kapoiou 
gia plaka, enw, anti8eta, o opados 8rhskeutikou tupou einai ikanos na 
pe8anei gi auto pou uposthrizei.

Etsi, loipon, pairnw to meros autwn pou uposthrizoun thn GPL enanti ths 
BSD, gia plaka. Alla kai gia allous logous, o basikoteros twn opoiwn 
einai o e3hs:

	- H BSD adeia epitrepei TA PANTA. Auto shmainei oti ena programma me auth 
thn adeia mporei na xrhsimopoih8ei apo kapoion (p.x. microsoft) gia thn 
paragwgh kleistou kwdika, o opoios, pi8anotata, 8a apotelesei ergaleio 
ulopoihshs monopoleiakwn taktikwn.
	- H GPL epitrepei, epishs, th xrhsh tou kwdika h' tmhmatos tou se allous 
kwdikes, upo th sun8hkh oti oi alloi kwdikes 8a einai GPL h' estw GPL 
compatible (dhladh 8a mporoun ki autoi na xrhsimopoih8oun apo 
opoiondhpote, arkei ki o kwdikas tou opoioudhpote na einai GPL 
compatible k.o.k.). Ara 8ewrhtika h microsoft h' o opoiosdhpote software 
ventor 8elei na kanei kleisto kwdika, den mporei na xrhsimopoiei GPL kwdika.

Bebaia, pws mporei kaneis na katalabei an enas kleistos kwdikas exei 
kommatia GPL kwdika h' oxi? Apla den mporei. Mia etairia 8a mporouse na 
enswmatwsei oloklhres efarmoges stous kleistous kwdikes ths kai kaneis 
den 8a mporei na apodei3ei oti to ekane.

Ara, yilomalakia h diafora GPL kai BSD, telika, gi auto kai h epilogh 
PREPEI na ginetai GIA PLAKA.

> Ti le re file sobara? Anti na skeftesai gia oti se apasxolei uo8eteis(!!!)
> kapoia kai kaneis oti leei?

Oxi, den kanw o,ti leei. Mporei na uposthrizw, p.x., thn GPL, alla auto 
den shmainei oti 8a epitrepw th xrhsh mou apo opoiondhpote, arkei autos 
na me enswmatwsei se kati pou 8a einai GPL. En telei, h logikh tou 
opadou, ws pio epifaniakh, epitugxanei akribws auto: enw o opados 
uposthrizei kati, den einai anagkasmenos na pratei sumfwna me auto. Gia 
paradeigma, kapoios pou einai Olumpiakos mporei, xalara, na giaourtwsei 
ton Kokalh (ton Swkrath) kai na mhn exei sundesh vodafon.

 > Etsi sizitas?

Eniote...

 > Gia na les oi ema8es?

Auto, lupame, alla den bgazei logiko nohma.

 > Gia auto
> eleges toses mlkies xtes sta email "RE:Epeigon" (NAI EIMAI EFARMOSMENOS
> MA8HMATIKOS KAI EFRIKSA ME TIS PAPARIES SAS XTES)?

Adunateis, blepw, na apolauseis ena kalo flame... Auto mono mizeria kai 
skotadismo fanerwnei.

> Afou de mporeis na skefteis para mono na eisai opados,

Au8aireto sumperasma: an epilegeis na eisai opados, den mporeis na skefteis.

Pws to ebgales auto to sumperasma, file patake? Profanws exeis sto mualo 
sou tous Original21. OK, autoi oi tupoi sumperiferontai san na mhn 
mporoun na skeftoun, wstoso ta sun8hmata tous einai polu efeuretika. 
Autoi oi tupoi den kanoun sun8hmata, kanoun poihsh! Kai sto lew egw 
auto, pou eimai gauros. Autoi oi an8rwpoi EPILEGOYN na einai opadoi, 
etsi wste na mhn exoun na anushxoun gia thn egkurothta twn oswn lene. Se 
kanoun na pisteueis oti den skeftontai, ki etsi tous afhneis hsuxous na 
dhmiourghsoun.

 > thn allh fora pou 8a mas
> metafereis oti sou ma8ane pes mas ta PRAGMATIKA epixeirhmata pou sou ma8ane
> ,oxi oti mlkia tou stul "ena einai to BSD kai to F BSD o profhths tou".

Pote den 8a elega mia tetoia malakia. Einai gnwsto oti to BSD den einai 
1. Yparxoun polla BSDs. To FreeBSD einai ena apo auta.

 > Allios apla SKASE.

8umwsame, blepw. Einai diaskedastiko, kata kapoio tropo.

> PS:Den eimai BSDas or linuxas,apla ma8aino kai ta 2 

Opws eixe pei ki o Karl Marx "that was a bit more information than I 
wanted to know".

> PS2:De 8elo na eimai posblhtikos alla de mporei o ka8e eksupnakias na leei oti
> mlkia 8elei kai na gamaei thn koubenta.

Eutuxws pou me thn epikodomhtikh sou parembash eswses thn suzhthsh.