Diimerida Pliroforikis Sto Panepistimio Kritis

[Lampros]

----- Original Message -----
From: "Papadogiannakis Vagelis" <papas at wise.gr>
To: "Stavros 0 Sahtouris" <saxtouri at csd.uoc.gr>
Cc: <gkabog at csd.uoc.gr>; <venturas at csd.uoc.gr>; <ugrads at csd.uoc.gr>;
<herlug at lists.hellug.gr>
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2001 7:51 PM
Subject: Re: Diimerida Pliroforikis Sto Panepistimio Kritis


> Paidia, sorry.
>
> afto pou 8a minei einai i pikria telika.
>
> ---
> Pros tin organotiki epitropi, mallon ta eklegmena meli tou silogou tou
> csd.
> ---
>  Eisastan se entelos lan8asmeno dromo oson afora sti diorganosi kata ti
> gnomi mou. Oi monoi pou dikaiountan na milisoun se mia tetoia giorti,
> einai h microsoft(?), o hellug kai to epimelitirio.

Den katalabainw   giati to  les ayto....
Giati na mpoume sth logikh ayth .... autos mas kanei...aytos de mas
kanei....
H tomeas ths plhroforikhs einai ayrutatos...
Kai me pia krithria epilegoume autous tous 3 pou les pio panw....



>
>  Dedomenou oti aftoi pou parakolou8isan tis omilies (ektos apo emena kai
> esas kai tous allous omilites) itan oloi proto etos, 8elo o ka8enas apo
> esas na skeftei pos nomizei oti enoiosan ola afta ta paidakia ta 18xrona,
> pou as min ksexname fitozoousan mia zoi oi perissoteroi gia na perasoun
> sto csd (ana8ema kai an kserane ti einai to pc ta perissotera). 8imizo ti



De xreiazete na ksereis apo pc gia na ertheis na spoudazeis se tmhma
ypolgistwn...aloimono
Arkei na exeis agaph gia to antikeimeno... thn episthmh ayth genikotera... .
ta ypoloipa ta mathaineis edw....




> akousan. Merikes diafimiseis, ``eimaste cool, kante to kai eseis'' apo tis
> etaires pou geni8ikan ekei, kai ``eimaste cool, elate na mas doulepsete''
> apo tis alles.
>
>  Na sas po ego pos nomizo oti enoiosan?... Agxomenoi, kai me varh to
> ais8ima tis efthinis apentanti stin koinonia(=intracom, ote, forthnet,
> Lucent ...) Perasan se afti ti sxoli, pou (opos akoustike) einai to HRVRD
> tis mesogeiou (den to amfisvito, isos) kai exun mia mono epilogi. Prepei
> na petixoun. Kai epeidi den exoun oloi tis gnoseis na ginoun (vtrip,
> atlantis,...) oute 8a tis apoktisoun giati den exoun panta ta katalila
> conne, as doume kati allo.
>

Ws gnwston h kathe etairia koitaei to symferon ths...
Kai to pws tha brei neous ergazomenous... alla
epishs presbeuei kai prwthei diafores  koinwnikes axies,   tropous skepseis
ktl...

Ayto einai gnwsto kai sumbainei opote mia etairia kanei mia parousiash...
Endexomenos na mporousame na paremboume thetika an orizame
mia thematologia sthn ekdhlwsh  h an zhtousame apo kathe etairia na
parousiasei
px kapoia sygkekrimenh texnologia kai na mhn pasousiasei kati geniko kai
aoristo
( to opoio tha htan toulaxisto anousio kai spatalh xronou ...)

Alla ayto to exoume xanapei.. .. OK den eginan ola teleia.... alla
mathainoume apo ta lathh mas kai h epomenh
ekdhlwsh tha ginei kaluterh... :)

Omws sigoura den einai mono tetoia ta erethismata pou dexontai oi
prwtoeteis...alla kai
oi megaloeths foithtes.... Pera apo thn duhmerida ayth einai kai h
kathhmerinh empeiria kai
enasxolhsh ( apo pollous) pou fernei se epafh  me diafores texnologies kai
diaforous tropous skepseis....
( mhn xehname oti sthn idia thn dhhmerida htan programmatismeno na milhsoun
kai ta paidia apo th herlug
opote tha htan pio issorophmeno  to klima... )

[Edw epanalambanw th skepsh na kanonistei apo to Sulogo kai ta paidia apo th
herlug h parousiash
pou den egine...] Kai eimai sigouros oti tha erthoun kai prwtoeths.




Lampros Gkabogiannis





>  As milisoume me dedomena. 8elo na mou pei opoios kserei, posoi apo tous
> mexri tora apofoitous tou csd exoun kanei/kanoun mba. Ego akousa ena
> noumero giro sto 70%. Spare me... Pistevete oti afto makropro8esma einai
> kalo? (Entelos ritorikh h erotish)
>
>  Emeis oi computerades eimaste perifanoi gia tin an8ropia mas. Giati oi
> perissoteroi einai pano apo ola an8ropoi. Kai malista poli perissotero apo
> olous aftous tous koultouriarides pou mas koroidevoun kai mas katigoroun
> gia apomonosi/apoksenosi, afto to kserete osoi to aksizete. Eimaste
> an8ropoi me idanika,me pistevo, an8ropoi me orama kai filodoksies, me
> entono to ais8ima tis efthinis kai idaniko tin eleftheria opos kai na tin
> orisete. Ola afta, ta ma8enei opoios asxoleitai me ipologistes.
>
>  Afto pou de mou arese sti giortoula sas, einai oti, a8ela sas isos,
> ftiaxnete robotakia, ti stigmi pou stous foitites 8a eprepe na kaliergeite
> to pnevma tis igious skepsis kai ola afta pou anafera parapano. Kai 8a
> vroun to dromo tous monaxoi.
>
>  Pou pige i istoria tis pliroforikis, i istoria tis apple me ta garazakia,
> tis microsoft me to msdos, tis ibm me to ibm pc pou 8a eprepe na ma8ainoun
> PROTA-PROTA afta ta paidia? Den ksero pou pige, alla ksero pou EPREPE na
> paei. Ston tipo pou ka8otane kai eksine me to kleidi tin epifaneia tou
> sklirou tis IBM pou itan ek8ema, gia na dei ksero go ti, an itan telika
> kinder ekpliksi. a nai, eprepe na paei kai stous allous pou xtipousane ta
> ftoxa ta apple II, epeidi den ipirxe disketa na paroun mpros! Kai otan
> tous eipa ``re, me sevasmo stin istoria sas'' mou apantisan. ``Afou den
> eisai sto UNI, ti se noiazei''. Fisika den eixa kamia oreksi na tous
> eksigiso oti egrapsa mia paragrafo pio pano afou den tous to eksigei o
> silogos tous. Htan kata to mesimeri, kai tote itan pou protoskeftika na ta
> paratiso ola kai na figo.
>
> O 8eos na sas fotisei, giati i 8esi sas exei megales apaitiseis. Poli
> megaliteres apaitiseis apo aftes pou exei o omilitis tis intracom, tis
> microsoft, tis hellug.
>
> Peite me grafiko, romantiko. Alla skeftite to. (kata to ''patakson men
> akouson de'')
>
> --
> Vagelis Papadogiannakis
> papas at wise.gr
>
>
> [1] Ti akrivos einai afto to ugrads at csd.uoc.gr?[3]
> [2] An kapoios mou apantisei, as einai se mia epikodomitiki morfi
> dialogou, h as apantisei mono sto [1].
> [3] Nai einai unreferenced to [1]. Kanena problima ?
>