protash...

[KAZAZakis Georgios]

Nomizw oti einai kalutera pou eginan etsi ta pragmata gia na diaxwristoun
oi "diafhmiseis" apo to ergo kai gia na ekshghsw proteinw:

To savvato pou mas erxetai, na kanonistei ena diwro, p.x 3:00-5:00 (h'
genika kapoia stimgh pou 8a einai eleu8ero to amfi8eatro) na ginei h
parousiash pou etoimasate. Oxi diorganwsh, giortoula h' opws alliws mporei
na to onomasei kaneis, alla mia aplh parousiash. O stoxos auth th fora 8a
einai gia ta atoma ta opoia 8eloun na enhmerw8oun gia ta sugkekrimena
8emata pou exete na mas peite kai pou kata thn tapeinh mou apopsh ontws,
opws eipate aforoun kai endiaferoun arketo kosmo, kai epishs einai kai
genikotera shmantika oson afora ton tropo skepshs pou "kouvaloun". Sto
idio stul -pou proteinw- ginontai suxna kai alles parousiaseis, otan
ka8hghtes tou tmhmatos kaloun sugkekrimena atoma na milhsoun, gia
opoiodhpote 8ema.

Auth th fora oxi afises se olo to Hrakleio, alla enhmerwsh me mail stous
panepisthmiakous kai oxi mono users. Nomizw oti oi pio polloi apo tous
endiaferomenous - kai apo ola ta tmhmata - 8a enhmerw8oun gia to sumvan
kai autoi pou pragmatika endiaferontai, 8a er8oun. Den xreiazomaste polu
kosmo outws h' allws gia na ginei kati ousiastiko.

[pros to sullogo foithtwn]
Nomizw oti exoun dikio ta paidia pou lene oti den ekselixthkan kala ta
pragmata anaforika me auta pou skopeuan na kanoun, epishs gia to oti
afierwsan arketo xrono xwris na exei apotelesma kai telos kai gia to oti
auta pou exoun na poun einai shmantika. Gi'autous tous logous nomizw oti o
sullogos prepei na kanei auth thn energeia (h' kapoia allh, an krinei oti
mporei na ginei kati diaforetiko/kalutero). Apla nomizw oti mias kai egine
hdh kapoios kopos einai kalo na teleiwsei kai omorfa h olh prospa8eia,
kati pou kata th gnwmh mou den einai duskolo, einai swsto kai einai kai
wfeloimo.

Kazaz/

P.S: Vevaia prepei kai ta paidia pou 8a kanoun tis parousiaseis na
sumfwnhsoun, ektos apo to sullogo :)

On Sun, 2 Dec 2001, Papadogiannakis Vagelis wrote:

> Paidia, sorry.
>
> afto pou 8a minei einai i pikria telika.
>
> ---
> Pros tin organotiki epitropi, mallon ta eklegmena meli tou silogou tou
> csd.
> ---
>  Eisastan se entelos lan8asmeno dromo oson afora sti diorganosi kata ti
> gnomi mou. Oi monoi pou dikaiountan na milisoun se mia tetoia giorti,
> einai h microsoft(?), o hellug kai to epimelitirio.
>
>  Dedomenou oti aftoi pou parakolou8isan tis omilies (ektos apo emena kai
> esas kai tous allous omilites) itan oloi proto etos, 8elo o ka8enas apo
> esas na skeftei pos nomizei oti enoiosan ola afta ta paidakia ta 18xrona,
> pou as min ksexname fitozoousan mia zoi oi perissoteroi gia na perasoun
> sto csd (ana8ema kai an kserane ti einai to pc ta perissotera). 8imizo ti
> akousan. Merikes diafimiseis, ``eimaste cool, kante to kai eseis'' apo tis
> etaires pou geni8ikan ekei, kai ``eimaste cool, elate na mas doulepsete''
> apo tis alles.
>
>  Na sas po ego pos nomizo oti enoiosan?... Agxomenoi, kai me varh to
> ais8ima tis efthinis apentanti stin koinonia(=intracom, ote, forthnet,
> Lucent ...) Perasan se afti ti sxoli, pou (opos akoustike) einai to HRVRD
> tis mesogeiou (den to amfisvito, isos) kai exun mia mono epilogi. Prepei
> na petixoun. Kai epeidi den exoun oloi tis gnoseis na ginoun (vtrip,
> atlantis,...) oute 8a tis apoktisoun giati den exoun panta ta katalila
> conne, as doume kati allo.
>
>  As milisoume me dedomena. 8elo na mou pei opoios kserei, posoi apo tous
> mexri tora apofoitous tou csd exoun kanei/kanoun mba. Ego akousa ena
> noumero giro sto 70%. Spare me... Pistevete oti afto makropro8esma einai
> kalo? (Entelos ritorikh h erotish)
>
>  Emeis oi computerades eimaste perifanoi gia tin an8ropia mas. Giati oi
> perissoteroi einai pano apo ola an8ropoi. Kai malista poli perissotero apo
> olous aftous tous koultouriarides pou mas koroidevoun kai mas katigoroun
> gia apomonosi/apoksenosi, afto to kserete osoi to aksizete. Eimaste
> an8ropoi me idanika,me pistevo, an8ropoi me orama kai filodoksies, me
> entono to ais8ima tis efthinis kai idaniko tin eleftheria opos kai na tin
> orisete. Ola afta, ta ma8enei opoios asxoleitai me ipologistes.
>
>  Afto pou de mou arese sti giortoula sas, einai oti, a8ela sas isos,
> ftiaxnete robotakia, ti stigmi pou stous foitites 8a eprepe na kaliergeite
> to pnevma tis igious skepsis kai ola afta pou anafera parapano. Kai 8a
> vroun to dromo tous monaxoi.
>
>  Pou pige i istoria tis pliroforikis, i istoria tis apple me ta garazakia,
> tis microsoft me to msdos, tis ibm me to ibm pc pou 8a eprepe na ma8ainoun
> PROTA-PROTA afta ta paidia? Den ksero pou pige, alla ksero pou EPREPE na
> paei. Ston tipo pou ka8otane kai eksine me to kleidi tin epifaneia tou
> sklirou tis IBM pou itan ek8ema, gia na dei ksero go ti, an itan telika
> kinder ekpliksi. a nai, eprepe na paei kai stous allous pou xtipousane ta
> ftoxa ta apple II, epeidi den ipirxe disketa na paroun mpros! Kai otan
> tous eipa ``re, me sevasmo stin istoria sas'' mou apantisan. ``Afou den
> eisai sto UNI, ti se noiazei''. Fisika den eixa kamia oreksi na tous
> eksigiso oti egrapsa mia paragrafo pio pano afou den tous to eksigei o
> silogos tous. Htan kata to mesimeri, kai tote itan pou protoskeftika na ta
> paratiso ola kai na figo.
>
> O 8eos na sas fotisei, giati i 8esi sas exei megales apaitiseis. Poli
> megaliteres apaitiseis apo aftes pou exei o omilitis tis intracom, tis
> microsoft, tis hellug.
>
> Peite me grafiko, romantiko. Alla skeftite to. (kata to ''patakson men
> akouson de'')
>
> --
> Vagelis Papadogiannakis
> papas at wise.gr
>
>
> [1] Ti akrivos einai afto to ugrads at csd.uoc.gr?[3]
> [2] An kapoios mou apantisei, as einai se mia epikodomitiki morfi
> dialogou, h as apantisei mono sto [1].
> [3] Nai einai unreferenced to [1]. Kanena problima ?
>