Open source sto dhmosio

[Diomidis Spinellis]

Niko,

Kala kaneis kai xekinas ti syzitisi afti.  Kalo einai na xeroume tous 
stoxous mas.  O stoxos den einai na valoume open source sto dimosio, o 
stoxos einai na prosferoume kalyteres kai apodotikoteres ypiresies me 
xamilotero kostos, na enisxysoume tin egxoria texnognosia, na dosoume 
efkairies anaptyxis tis ypsilis texnologias kai na afxisume tin 
prostithemeni axia pou paragetai stin Ellada.  Gia olous aftous tous 
stoxous to ELLAK einai ena meso.  Epomenos de theoro pos tha kanoume 
kapoiou eidous stavroforia na vgaloume apo pantou ta Windows kai na 
valoume Linux i FreeBSD.  Afto pou tha prepei na kanoume einai na 
dimiourgisoume efkairies etsi oste to ELLAK na krinetai dikaia kai na 
egathistatai opou prosferei pleonektimata.  Etsi, polla apo afta pou 
grafeis katalligoun os energeies pou prepei na ylopoiithoun etsi kai 
allios se kalodiaxeirizomena erga pliroforikis anexartita apo to an 
xrisimopoiuon ELLAK i oxi.

An pistevoume sta pleonektimata tou ELLAK prepei na to afisoume na 
yiothetithei xari s'afta, oxi na to epivaloume os ideologiki katefthinsi.

Filika,

Diomidis Spinellis

na tethoun kapois proypotheseis
Nick Kossifidis wrote:
> Epeidh arga h grhgora tha prepei na exoume mia protash gia to ti tha
> valoume sto dhmosio ki epeidh to pragma shkwnei syzhthsh exw merikous
> provlhmatismous pou thelw na moirastw mazi sas kai sigoura pistevw oti
> oi mailing lists einai arketa kalos xwros gia na syzhtisoume to thema.
> Den mporoun pistevw na leipoun ap' th syzhthsh kai oi pleon armodioi
> thesmika gia to thema, o kos. Karounos kai o kos. Spinelis, eks allou
> exoume vrethei mazi arketes fores kai tous thewrw antrhwpous ths
> koinothtas.
> 
> An valoume loipon open source sto dhmosio tha eimaste h prwth xwra
> sthn Evrwph pou tha kanei kati tetoio, mexri stigmhs oti exei ginei
> sto ekswteriko exei ginei se epipedo nomarxias/dhmou (px. Limux) kai
> oxi se ethniko epipedo. Poloi theloun na paei strava ayth h
> prospatheia, poloi theloun sto prwto security leak h sto prwto crash
> na vgoun kai na poun "na ayto einai to open source" klp (merika
> papagalakia hdh exoun poiasei douleia ->
> http://www.tanea.gr/default.asp?pid=14&ct=11&artid=4546037). Sthn
> periptwsh ths M$ mexri twra krazame mia sygekrimenh etairia kai ayth h
> etairia analamvane kai thn eythinh gia to leitourgiko ths, sto open
> source den yparxei kati tetoio, an kati paei strava to louzomaste oloi
> mas, linux, openbsd, you name it. Den tha ginoume mono rompa ws xwra
> an kati paei strava, tha einai kai megalo plhgma gia to open source
> diethnws. Gi' ayto to logo pistevw oti to thema den afora mono thn
> kyvernhsh kai tous armodious alla olous mas.
> 
> Exoume loipon arketous tomeis na psaksoume (feel free to add):
> 
> a) Hw/system architecture, theloume px. specs sto hw gia na einai
> symvato me linux xwris xrhsh binary drivers. Yparxei ayth h dynatothta
> na orisoume eks arxhs specs kai na kanoume ananewsh eksoplismou ?
> Theloume workstations h dumb terminals (yparxei kai to thema ths
> eksoikonomhshs energeias px) ? Ti dynatothtes theloume na exei to hw ?
> Mporoume na aksiopoihsoume palious ypologistes h oi efarmoges pou
> xreiazomaste einai varies ?
> 
> b) Ti efarmoges xreiazomaste ? Yparxoun kapoies custom efarmoges gia
> to dhmosio h einai oles web based opote theloume apla ena firefox ?
> Theloume na mporoun oi xrhstes na egathistoun programmata h einai
> kalytero na tous "kleidwsoume" se ena perivalon sygekrimeno ? Gia tis
> custom efarmoges efoson yparxoun exoume to source code gia na tis
> ksanagrapsoume gia linux px h theloun douleia from scratch ? Theloume
> aytes oi custom efarmoges na vgoun public kai open source h einai
> security risk ?
> 
> c) Theloume en telei na trexoume linux/Open/Free(something) h mporoume
> na afisoume ta windows kai apla na valoume firefox / thunderbird kai
> open office ? Mhpws na ksekinhsoume etsi kai na prowthisoume th xrhsh
> open source leitourgikou stadiaka opws kanoun sto Limux ? An valoume
> mia dianomh linux poia einai h poio katallhlh ? Theloume mia custom
> dianomh gia to dhmosio opws exoun kanei sto Limux h oxi ? An pame gia
> custom dianomh tha kanoume ta panta maintain emeis (px gia logous
> security -vl ssp pie klp- ypostirizoume mono ta aparaithta
> programmata, kanoume maintain/monitor gia security issues kai den tous
> afhnoume na valoun tipote allo) h xrhsimopoioume kai ta paketa ths
> dianomhs pou tha xrhsimopoihsoume ws vash ?
> 
> d) To authentication tha ginetai kentrika (se kapoion kentriko LDAP
> px) h topika (se servers pou tha yparxoun sta grafeia ths yphresias) ?
> Tha exoume usernames/passwords h kapoia certificate authority (pkcs11)
> me smartcards klp ? H mhpws theloume kati akoma poio custom (custom
> smartcard me kana atmel h kamia javacard pou tha kanei emulate to
> pkcs11 kai tha exei kai alla features -px. gpg card-) ? Ta logs pws
> tha ta kanoume handle ? Tha exoume topika admins h kentrika ? Tha
> prepei na proslhfthoun unixo-admins h mporoume na ekpaideysoume tous
> yparxontes kai ti gnwseis prepei na exoun ?
> 
> e) Poios tha to stisei olo ayto kai poios tha kanei maintain ?
> Theloume ws koinothta na symvaloume ethelontika px kanontas support
> sto kep h thn yphresia ths perioxhs mas h den mporoume na analavoume
> thn eythinh kai theloume kapoia etairia na to kanei ? Yparxoun tetoies
> etairies sthn Ellada pou na exoun thn aparaithth texnognwsia ?
> Theloume ayto na minei sto ypourgeio px. se kapoia kainouria yphresia
> ? To theloume poio open ki an nai pws ?
> 
> f) Ti exoume gia na doulepsoume ? Poia einai h katastash ayth th
> stigmh, px ta kep kserw oti trexoun Redhad enterprize + oracle klp kai
> einai web based, me tis ypoloipes yphresies ti ginetai ? Einai oles se
> ena diktyo (syzefkshs px) h se diasparta ? Ta diktya ayta einai
> private h pernane panw apo internet me kapoio vpn ? Ti security
> measures exoume px. apo antivirus, firewalls klp, arkoun h theloume ki
> alla ? Poios kanei handle to diktyo, kapoia etairia, o OTE, to
> ypourgeio ?
> 
> 
> Exw tis apopseis/protaseis mou sta parapanw alla tha hthela na dw kai
> apo poio empeirous ti proteinoun + kyriws tis apopseis twn kwn
> Karounou kai Spinelh.
> 
> P.S.1 Plz as mh ksekinhsoume flame gia distros h linux vs BSD klp
> 
> P.S.2 Epishs oxi allo flame hellug vs greeklug vs otideipote, to
> open-source den einai h grafeiokratia/kareklokratia alla h idea kai oi
> antrhwpoi pou thn trexoun
> 
> P.S.3 Oute kommatiko flame
> 
> P.S.4 Kai telos pantwn kanenos eidous flame !!!
> 
> 
> Eyxaristw gia to xrono sas ;-)
>