Syllogos

[Alexios Zavras]

Panayotis Katsaloulis wrote [edited]:
> > - Merika pragmata anagkastika menoyn kryfa -- idiws sto epipedo toy D.S.
> 
> Nai, alla e3artatai apo to syllogo. Apo th stigmh poy anaferomaste se
> enan dhmosio mh kerdoskopiko syllogo genika den yparxei kati kryfo. O
> tamias elegxetai ana pasa stigmh [...]  Kai an exei
> klepsei o tamias eimaste arketa en9ermoi poy mallon telika sto
> Foystano 9a ta kata9esei :P

Pisteyw oti kaneis lathos.  Proswpikh empeiria, apo mh kerdoskopiko syllogo.
Anakalypteis oti o tamias exei faei N xiliades Eyrw (N>20).  Ti kaneis ?
a) To anakoinwneis se oloys, "o tamias efage ayta".  Ypothetw
   oti o Syllogos (to ypoloipo DS) toy ypobalh mynhsh kai ton paei
   sta dikasthria.  Elpizeis ta melh na mhn kanoyn eksalla pragmata
   opws ayta poy egrapses, giati tha arxisoyn oi kontra-mhnyseis.
   Mexri na dieytheththei to thema, o Syllogos den exei lefta,
   exei ekkremeis dikastikes ypotheseis, olos o kosmos kserei
   to Syllogo ws ayton poy kapoios eklegmenos efage ta lefta,
   kai paideyesai na apokatasthseis to onoma.  Opws egrapsa
   prin apo liges meres, to EurOpen den anorthwthhke pote...
b) toy les, "esfales, alla gia to kalo toy syllogoy gia na mh ginei mpaxalo, 
   de tha poyme tipota, tha mas ta gyriseis mexri teleytaio lepto
   prin tis 30/6, kai de tha ksanabaleis ypopshfiothta pote soy, ok?"
   O allos to dexetai, to kanei kai apo 1/7 o syllogos einai pali
   sthn poreia toy.

Sth dikia mas periptwsh (thn proswpikh empeiria poy eipa), to D.S.
syskefthhke, syzhthse, pshfise kai apofasise to (b) [oxi omofwna].
Mporei na htan lathos, alla emeis ayth thn apofash phrame,
giati ayto thewrhsame kalytero gia to Syllogo.

. . .

Skepsoy ti tha pei "ta panta anoixta kai dhmosia", se syndyasmo
me oikonomika stoixeia.  Molis pareis mia prosfora (gia mployzakia, p.x.)
mporei opoiosdhpote na kanei anti-prosfora ligo kalyterh.
Kai meta pali ta idia...  Ti tha kaneis?  "kleistes prosfores
se sfragismenoys fakeloys mexri tis 12:00" gia o,tidhpote ?


> Oi syneleyseis toy DS einai anoixtes (kai me bash toy katastatikoy an den
> kanw la9os).

OK, san melos toy Syllogoy proteinw na allaksei ayto,
gia to kalo toy Syllogoy.  Na antikatastathei, dhl.,
h par. 6 toy arthroy 17 me mia poy milaei gia enhmerwsh
twn melwn apo ton Grammatea gia tis syneleyseis toy D.S.


> Pisteyw pws edw to'xeis piasei la9os. To 9ema einai an exoyme
> katalabei ti prosferei alla ti *parapanisio* *9a* 9elame na prosferei
> o syllogos.

Parapanisio apo ti ?
Afoy den kseroyme ti prosferei...


> Mh sygkrineis thn pleiopshfia twn allwn syllogwn. [...]
> Emeis oxi mono eimaste
> "freskoi" alla eimaste kai se enan entelws zwntano kai reysto xwro.
> Opote mono me nees apopseis kai antipara9eseis 9a bgoyme mprosta.

Anaferomoyna se "syllogoys" kompioyteradwn, me <10 xronia zwhs.
Alla o hellug oyte o prwtos oyte o monos syllogos einai poy sthnetai --
kai ta problhmata poy antimetwpizoyn oi syllogoi einai se megalo
bathmo koina (antikeimeno, proselkysh melwn, ergo, oikonomika, ...).


> (de 9a anafer9w bebaia kai sto poso mas aresoyn ta flames, na kratame
> ta aimata zesta...)

mporei ayta na einai diaskedastika gia kapoioys, alla gia alloys
einai teleiws apotharryntika (s'*ayton* to Syllogo tha prosferw?!)
kai se kathe periptwsh den bohthane na bgainei ergo (oyte
thn epiteyksh twn stoxwn toy Syllogoy).

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