mesa enhmerosis - epixeirhmata microsoft

[Theodore J. Soldatos]

zakinthinos at hellug.gr wrote:
>>geniki gramateia ereunas kai texnologias 
>>Panayotis Katsaloulis panayotis at panayotis.com 
>>Sat Nov 30 16:45:02 2002 
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>>Kai ystera anarwtiomaste giati den "pernane" ta deltio typoy mas.
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> isos na iparxoun kai alloi logoi opos megethos (poses selides einai),
> ean einai endiaferon kai to katanoei to koino, to format tou arxeiou
> (mporei na theloun mac format), se poion tomea ths efimeridas apeuthinetai
> (p.x oikonomia), poios to paralambanei/diaxeirizetai/apofasizei gia thn ekdosh 
> toy, ean einai simvato me mia politiki efimerida logo texnikou ifous grafhs
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> (den einai momfi pros ton soldato apla oi ekdotes exoun kai autoi ton
> diko tous kodika epikoinwnias opos kai emeis sthn lgu.)

Milame gia deltio typou kai oxi arthro synergath ths efhmeridas, synepos an 
thelei na to dhmosieysei mia efhmerida tha to dhmosieysei, pera apo texnikes 
kai aisthitikes diafores. To "Kerdos" htan to teleytaio meros pou tha perimene 
kaneis na dei to D.T. me vash ayta pou les kai omos to dhmosieyse.

En pasei periptosh, den nomizo oti prepei na arxisoume na grafoume san ta 
deltia typou ton diskografikon etaireion mono kai mono gia na "pernaei". 
Exoume kai mia aksioprepeia telos panton... :-)

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> kata thn gnomi mou i microsoft prepei na figei apo tous servers
> tou dimosiou, den prepei mia kseni etairia na exei prosvash se
> euaisthta dedomena (opos auta tou stratou p.x.), opoios kserei
> ti einai o ylikos polemos katalavenei ti mporei na ginei ama i microsoft
> apofasisei na "apodiorganosei" ligo ta pragmata sto strato en kairw polemou. 
> den pistevo oti prepei na figei apo tous clients giati oi xristes thn kseroun
> kai to user interface tis einai kalo, opos kala einai kai ta
> interface programmatwn opos to mirc, einai thema ekpaideusis xristwn
> vevea alla pire xronia stin ms na tous ftasei se auto to epipedo
> me thn voithia pollwn ellinwn VAR's.

Ayto shkonei pollh syzhthsh. En syntomia, vrisko to interface ton Windows 
teleios avolo kai pistevo oti einai kathara thema (kakhs) synhtheias kai 
(thanathforou) marketing.

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>>geniki gramateia ereunas kai texnologias 
>>Theodore J. Soldatos theodore at eexi.gr 
>>Sun Dec 1 12:36:01 2002 
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>>Tora to eida... Gia mena, ayto einai se epipedo skandalou. Proteino na to 
>>kanoume evreos gnosto, oxi ston ellhniko typo (etsi ki allios gramenous mas 
>>exoun), alla se Slashdot, FSF, Register klp. Na etoimasoume ena keimeno pou na 
>>perigrafei thn katastash, na to valoume sto site mas (sta agglika) kai na 
>>enhmerosoume ola ayta ta sites kai organismous. Mono kraksimo apo to 
>>eksoteriko katalavainoun aytoi, to "ntopio" kraksimo to exoun synhthisei toso 
>>poly pou den tous peirazei.
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> ektos apo auta:
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> mia diadilosi me pano linux ekso apo tin microsoft hellas sto marousi me 
> kanalia opos alter, alpha pou psofane gia tromolagneia (ms = big brother, ms = 
> crash pirinikou antidrasthra) i einai euaisthita ethnika ("kseni" etairia mas 
> elegxei), nai, vromiko alla  etsi paizoun kai autoi...

Oxi, opos eipa kai pio pano exoume kai mia aksioprepeia. O logos malista pou 
akoma den exo steilei draft gia to keimeno pou anafero pio pano einai giati 
skeftomai akoma an tha htan sosth kinhsh na kanoume mia amesh epithesh sthn 
Microsoft. Kindynevoume na xarakthristoume "grafikoi" kai poly perissotero an 
kanoume kati san ki ayto pou perigrafeis. Pistevo oti prepei na apofeygoume 
oso mporoume thn eytheia antiparathesh me thn Microsoft giati sto kato-kato 
den einai ayth to provlhma mas, opoia etaireia kai na htan sthn thesh ths to 
idio tha ekane. To provlhma einai genikotero provlhma hthikhs (ΗΘΙΚΗΣ gamoto, 
giati den vgainei me tipota ayth h leksh sta greeklish?).

Gia na katalaveis, kata thn diarkeia ths syntomhs parousiashs pou ekana sto 
workshop ths Sun gia thn thesh tou Linux sthn ellhnikh agora, den anefera oute 
mia fora thn leksh "Microsoft"... :-)

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> ean enas ypologisths toy dhmosiou diaxeirizetai diavathmismena, aporrhta 
> dedomena, apotelei paravash kathikontos tou ypeuthinou ean i microsoft
> i opoiosdipote allos exoun prosvasi esto kai se ena tcp port oste na 
> mporoun na ipokleptoun dedomena i na diatarakosun tin adialeipth leitourgeia
> tou, etsi mporei na yparksh egklhsh se dikasthrio apo eisaggelea, ksero
> oti o sillogos den aresketai se dikastikes diamaxes kai den diafono me ayto alla
> oi kratountes den nomizo na kinithoun allios, ean den doun diladi na
> apeilountai. mia tetoia katigoria einai arketa elafria, den theloume na
> katadikasoume kanenan alla na papsoun na kanoun ta strava matia gia tin 
> microsoft kai isos, ean oles oi alles morfes pieshs apotyxoun, aksizei
> na skeftoume kai auti thn lysh.

Poly travhgmeno... Prepei prota na *symvei* kati *poly* xontro gia na mhn se 
poun trello. Kai nai, o syllogos den exei kamia oreksh gia dikastikes diamaxes 
thn stigmh malista pou einai enas "ftoxos" syllogos.

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> sinitheis pseudeis kataskeues tis microsoft:
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> 1) den yparxei episimi ipostiriksi gia to linux
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> pera apo redhat,sun,  ta panepistimia kai oi foithtes ti kanoun ;

Den mporoun na theorithoun epishmh yposthriksh ta panepisthmia kai oi 
foithtes, para mono gia ta idia toys ta systhmata (vlepe NOC P.A. :-)
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> 2) to anoikto logismiko einai anoikths fysews kai den diasfalizei
> to aporrhto afou i domi tou einai gnosti stous crackers
> 
> nai i domi tou einai gnosti alla oi algorithmoi kryptografhshs
> pou elegxoun thn prosvash sto sistima exoun sxediastei oste
> parolo pou einai gnosti i domi tous na mhn mporei kapoios na tous 
> paraviasei xoris na diatheti thn leksi kleidi (password)

Security by obscurity. Kapoios pou na exei ta sxetika links pou apodeiknyoun 
to lathos ths olhs ideas ?

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> 3) den einai euxrhsto gia ton aplo, arxario xrhsth kai apaitei admin.
> 
> safws, emeis to prowthoume os leitourgiko eksyphrethtwn, opou yparxei
> ekseidikeumeno episthmoniko prosopiko pou mporei na kanei xrhsh twn
> prohgmenwn dynatothtwn tou leitourgikou
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> 4) iparxei agnoia gia to pos douleui esoterika
> 
> i stenh syndesh tou leitourgikou me ta episthmonika protypa dinei 
> thn dynatothta se episthmones ths plhroforikhs na gnorizoun kathe
> leptomereia ths leitourgias tou se osodhpote vathi epipedo (low level)

Thanks for the comments...

T.

P.S.: Opos tha eidate eteila hdh mail ston k. Papadhmhtriou. To esteila os 
prosopikh protovoulia, gi ayto den to syzhthsa sthn lista. Elpizo na mhn 
diafoneite poly... An kai vlepo oti o Spyros hdh diafonhse...

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