Peri copyrant klp (kai ligo GPL)

Theodore J. Soldatos theodore at eexi.gr
Fri Jun 9 15:55:15 EEST 2000


Michalis Kabrianis wrote:
> 
> Re sy Thodwri, den katalabainw to skeptiko sou (sas).
> O kathenas pou grafei ena programma PREPEI na exei to dikaiwma na to poulaei
> opws kai oso thelei.
> Nai i oxi?

Oxi. Kat' arxhn DEN poulane, noikiazoune. Polhsh shmainei oti einai diko mou kai
to kano o,ti thelo. An ego den to thelo pia, mporo na to poulhso se esena, sosta
? LATHOS! Den to exo agorasei, to exo noikiasei kai malista me oro na mhn mporo
na metavivaso to dikaioma. 

Deyteron, yparxoun kanones sto ti mporei na kanei o polhths kai ti orous mporei
na thesei. To "oso" kathorizetai apo tous kanones ths agoras (an kai edo
yparxoun antitrust kai antimonopoliakoi nomoi akrivos gia na mhn mporei o
kathenas na kerdoskopei). Gia to "opws" omos yparxoun epipleon kanones. An ego
sou poulhso ena aytokinhto kai sto symvolaio grapso oti se periptosh pou fygei h
roda ego den ftaio, an fygei h roda kai tsakisteis ego san kataskeyasths *tha
ftaio* aneksarthta apo to ti exeis ypograpsei esy, apo ameleia h vlakeia. 

Aytoi oi kanones yparxoun gia na prostatevoun ton agorasth. Dioti mporei o
agorasths na einai hlithios kai o polhths na mhn exei hthikous fragmous sto na
ton ekmetaleytei. Se aythn thn periptosh, epemvainei h politeia. Allios
leitourgei o nomos ths zouglas: Oi isxyroi epivionoun, oi adynamoi pethainoun,
metaforika kai kyriolektika. Politismos shmainei na epizoun kai oi adynatoi,
sthn periptosh mas oi hlithioi. 

Sthn periptosh toy DVD gia paradeigma, oi etaireies xrhsimopoioun thn dynamh
tous gia na vgaloun akoma perissotera fraga. Einai *apolyta themito* to kratos,
pou exei th dynamh na to kanei, na tous periorisei gia na prostatepsei tous
polites tou, giati aytos einai o logos yparkshs tou: Na prostateyei tous
*polites* san atoma kai oxi tis etaireies.

An isxye ayto pou les parapano, tote fidi kolovo pou mas efage. Akoma kai me
kanones oi etaireies exoun apokthsei terastia dynamh, an den yphrxan kai kapoies
dikleides asfaleias tora tha hsoun sklavos kapoias etaireias. Demenos me
alysides. Mprosta sto PC sou. Pou trexei Windoze. :-)

> 
> Den mporeis dimokratika na epibaleis ston allo to "den tha to pouliseis, tha to
> xariseis epeidi etsi goustarw".

Oxi, alla mporeis na tou epivaleis na mhn kerdoskopei asystola. Den eipe kanenas
oti olo to software prepei na xarizetai sonei kai kala. To ti tha einai
eleythero kai ti oxi tha to deiksei h praktikh. Alla mexri tote prepei na
yparxoun kanones. Kai tous kanones tous orizei to kratos me gnomona to symferon
ton politon, oxi h Micro$oft, oute h MPAA. *POTE* den tous edosa ego san poliths
ths Elladas ayto to dikaioma.

> 
> Ara, to thema den einai na apagoreytei ayti i taktiki alla na katalabei o
> kosmos TI SIMAINEI ayti i taktiki.

Vlepe parapano peri hlithion.... :-)

> Megalytero (kai POLY megalytero malista) einai to problima tis peirateias
> logismikou. Giati o kosmos to kanei xwris na katalabainei.

Poly megalytero einai to provlhma ths *antistrofhs* peirateias pou kanoun oi
etaireies, vlepe OEM leitourgika. Ksereis poses adeies exo petaksei eno tis exo
(h etaireia telos panton) plhrosei ? Kai den mporo na dexto na mou epivallei h
Micro$oft kai h kathe koloetaireia mia BSA sthn plath mou, th stigmh malista pou
akoma kai me ta trella pososta peirateias pou yparxoun oi perissoteres etaireies
phzoun sto xrhma. Giati h BSA den tha koitaksei na periorisei thn peirateia px
sta games, opou ontos polles kales etaireies pane apates logo peirateias, alla
koitazei ta symferonta ton megalon. An h peirateia epefte sto mhden me kapoio
magiko tropo, ta lefta pou tha evgaze o Gates tha ftanane na agorasei ton
planhth. 

> Thes (thelete) na kanoume kati?
> Steilte oloi apo enan katalogo stin BSA me etaireies kai idiwtes pou prepei na
> "tous kanei mia episkepsi".

Ayto legetai "xafiedismos" kai dedomenou oti den pistevo oti o skopos agiazei ta
mesa, arnoumai na to kano. :-)

> Mia mera prin tin episkepsi tis BSA, steilte tous ena wraio mail pou n eksigei
> ti mporei na kerdisei OIKONOMIKA kapoios xrisimopoiwntas to Linux.
> Otan i BSA tous pei: "Thelw 10 katommyriakia gia na min se balw fylaki" tha
> frontisoun na diabasoun to mail sou ;-)

Oxi. Vlepe parapano gia hlithious.

> 
> Telos, prosfatws epsaxna kati themata gia licensing programmatwn gia emporikous
> skopous.
> Sas pliroforw oti megalyteri diktatoria apo tin GPL den yparxei.
> Osoi de, poulane programmata GPL'd einai TROMERA ypokrites, apla kai mono gia
> na bgaloun ena - dyo fragka.

Den ksero ti ennoeis ypokrites, ayto pou ksero einai oti an o Kerberos htan GPL
anti gia BSD (poly pio "fileleytherh" adeia oso afora thn antimetopish ton
emporikon skopon), h Micro$oft *den* tha mporouse na *klepsei* ousiastika to
protokolo xrhsimopoiontas thn dynamh pou exei apokthsei os monopolio. Kai sto
kato kato kanenas den se ypoxreonei na xrhsimopoihseis GPL, oi developers to
apofasizoun monoi tous. An thes na xrhsimopoihseis kati pou einai se GPL kai na
*mhn* to valeis se GPL, tote esy eisai lathos, dioti gia libraries yparxei kai h
LGPL. 

> 
> Tha proteina (kai tha to koitaksw poly sobara gia na kanw protaseis) na
> asxolithei o syllogos me mia nea license pou na eksasfalizei ta eksis:
> 
> a) na einai open source pros ofelos tou agorasti

GPL

> b) ta emporika dikaiwmata pros ofelos tou programmatisti

GPL epishs. Kanenas den se empodizei na poulas GPL software kai malista oxi mono
ayto pou exeis grapsei esy, alla kai software allon. Kai kyrios kaneis den se
empodizei na poulas *SUPPORT*.

> 
> Gia na min kataliksoume ki emeis na ginoume ypokrites opws i RedHat

H Redhat einai etaireia, kai gia etaireia pistevo oti einai ok. Den katalavaino
ayto to "ypokrites", mporeis na to ekshghseis ligo ? Pantos kai mono o ntoros
pou egine me thn metoxh ths RedHat, ekane kalo kai sto Linux kai sto OSS genika.

T.

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