peri certification

[George Papamichelakis]

Mhn ksexnate oti emeis edw (Step) exoume idi kapoia empeiria panw sto thema
tou hardware kai mporoume na sas promithevoume me tetoies plhrofories ...

Outos h allos ta mixanakia pou poulane oi "megaloi" den einai kapoia custom
kataskevi
(opws einai px ta Compaq h ta gateway) alla parts tou emporiou ta opoia
montaroun apla kai mono .

----- Original Message -----
From: Manos Karagiorgos <xmantis at x-treme.gr>
To: <hellug at hellug.gr>
Sent: Monday, December 13, 1999 10:09 AM
Subject: Re: peri certification


>
>
> Panayotis Vryonis wrote:
>
> > Fobamai oti to 1) den einai eukolo na isxusei, ka8ws elaxistoi an8rwpoi
sthn
> > Ellada
> > einai "Linux Certified". Pantws an kapoioi apo autous endiaferontai
einai sigoura
> > panw-panw sthn lista.
> >
> > Egw 8a proteina to parakatw, pou lambanei ypopsh tou to 2)
> > (kai prin me parete sto kynhgi kai to giouxarisma,
> > na pw oti DEN 8a eimai "tester", an kati tetoio isxusei): Na epilegei to
DS.
> > H skepsh einai h ekshs: An den broume kapoio allo tropo (px. eksetaseis
> > pou gia na ginoun 8a xreiastei allh tosh an oxi perissoterh douleia)
> > h epilogh prepei na ginei apo an8rwpous pou na "kseroun" to Linux
> > kai ton xwro tou. To DS mporei kata kairous na mhn apoteleitai apo tous
> > guru tou phrina, alla exei eklegei me thn logikh oti autoi oi an8rwpoi
> > A) kseroun 5 pragmata gia to Linux kai B) einai an8rwpoi pou tous
> > empisteuomaste. Ara, mporoun na epileksoun anamesa stous
endiaferomenous.
> >
> > Epipleon, h xronikh diarkeia tou 1 xronou pou einai h 8hteia tou
ekastote
> > DS, einai sxetika mikrh gia na ginoun "atas8aleies" (gia na leme kai ta
> > pragmata me to onoma tous, auto einai ena 8ema pou prepei na mas
> > apasxolhsei, to pws 8a prostateutoume ws sullogos apo "paranomies").
> > Malista, an h epilogh epilegetai apo to DS, 8a prepei h 8hteia twn
"testers"
> > na leigei AYTOMATA me thn lhksh ths 8hteias tou DS. Epipleon, to DS
> > einai upo thn sunexh epithrhsh twn mellwn tou, afou an ta 2/5 apo
> > auta zhthsoun Genikh Syneleush, tote ginetai kai se auth mporei
> > na zhth8oun nees ekloges (bl. Katastatiko).
> >
> > Mporoume epipleon, na poume oti p.x. o Proedros tou DS den exei
> > dikaiwma na ginei "tester", alla exei upoxrewsh na synupografei
> > to pistopoihtiko gia na einai egkyro. Etsi, to ka8e pistopoihtiko
> > 8a egkrinetai kai apo to DS (etsi eksasfalizoume kai to oti
> > h etaireia 8a exei ekplhrwsei tis upoxrewseis ths, kati 8a dinei
> > kai ston sullogo, etsi den einai?).
> >
> > Telos, to ka8e pistopoihtiko 8a prepei na dhmosieuetai kai sto
> > www.hellug.gr
> >
> > Nomizw oti akomh kai an ta parapanw den kalyptoun (kuriws
> > apo apopsh diafaneias) kapoious, mporoume na baloume kai
> > epipleon periorismous, etsi wste na apotelesoun ena susthma
> > me euruterh apodoxh.
> >
> > Apo kei kai pera, einai 8ema olwn mas (tou Syllogou), na kanoume
> > swsth douleia gia na exei aksiopistia h "sfragida" mas.
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> > Telos, gnwrizw oti arketoi (an oxi POLLOI) ypeu8unoi etaireiwn
> > ston Ellhniko xwro diabazoun thn lista auth. 8a tous parakalousa
> > na mas poun pws tous fainetai h idea tou "HELLUG certified".
> > Sto katw-katw, an den exoume kai thn dikh tous apodoxh kai to
> > diko tous endiaferon, h prwtobouleia auth den exei kai poly nohma...
> > 8a tous ikanopoiouse mono kai mono to autokollhto gia paradeigma,
> > h 8a tous endiefere h dunatothta na dinoun kai ena antigrafo tou
> > pistopoihtikou (isws me parathrhseis tou tester) mazi me to mhxanhma?
> >
> > Panayotis Vryonis.
>
> H olh idea pou efere o Panayotis gia pistopoihsh mhxanhmatvn apo ton
Hellug, einai
> arketa kalh kai pisteyv ylopoihshmh se syntomo xroniko diasthma. Apo thn
pleura mou
> tha hthela na stathv se merika shmeia:
>
> 1) Sthn epilogh tvn texnikvn, h opoia prepei na einai kathara
anteikimenikh (nai,
> entaksei ton kserv ton tade, asxoleitai 5 xronia me Linux, symfvnv alla
prepei na
> yparxei kai kapoia kalypsh gia tis etairies pou tha dhlvsoyn endiaferon)
Ara,
> proteinv th dieksagvgh tests sxetika me HARDWARE kai LINUX stous
endiaferomenous me
> oso ginetai antikeimenika krithria, px apo to DS efoson mporei arketa melh
tou na mh
> dhlvsoyn endiaferon. Na yparxei kapoios titlos tou typou "Hellug Certified
> Technician". Nai den yparxoyn polloi "Linux Cerified" antrvpoi sthn
ellada, kairos na
> ginei kati sxetiko me oso to dynaton ginetai pio epishmo vathmo. Dyskolo
nai, edv
> erxetai o rolos toy DS.
>
> 2) Tha prepei na ksekatharistei o arithmos tvn etairivn pou endiaferontai
arxika kai
> o arithmos tvn endiaferomenvn texnikvn pou tha analambanoun th dieksagvgh
tests. To
> teleutaio se megalytero vathmo...
>
> 3) Gia ths sythhkes ergasias tvn texnikvn, gia arxh nomizv oti tha prepei
na
> phgainoyn sto xvro thw etairias...
>
> 4) H pistopoihsh pou tha ginetai opvw eipvthke den prepei na afora mia
sygkekrimenh
> distribution. Vevaia vs tvra oi statheres ekdoseis tou pyrhna den
lambanoyn ypopsh
> toys gia orismena perifereiaka (px USB) se antithsh me tis dev. alla
ypothetv oti h
> pistopoihsh tha ginetai me xrhsh tvn stathervn.
>
> 5) O end-user (katanalvths) prepei na prostateuetai. Mporei dhladh me thn
emfanish
> tou logo na yparksoun paranomies apo thn pleura orismenvn etairivn pou tha
thelhsoun
> na ekmetaleytoun thn parapanv katastash. O end-user tha PREPEI (kai auto
na einai
> apaithsh tou Hellug), efoson to mhxanhma einai certified na pairnei
analytikh anafora
> me to yliko toy systhmatos, kai na dhlvnetai rhta apo ton Hellug oti
prepei o idios
> na to apaitei kai na einai ypoxrevsh ths etairias.
>
> 6) O Hellug exei to pleonasma tou onomatos pou yparxei edv kai kairo kai
thn yparksh
> ths antikeimenikothtas oson afora themata dioikhshs kai organvshs. Tha
mporouse na
> emfanistei mia etairia me Linux technicians kai na kanei tests, alla omvw
den tha
> eixe to varos tou Hellug...
>
> Ayta gia thn vra...
>
> Manos
>
>