peri certification

Manos Karagiorgos xmantis at x-treme.gr
Mon Dec 13 10:09:48 EET 1999



Panayotis Vryonis wrote:

> Fobamai oti to 1) den einai eukolo na isxusei, ka8ws elaxistoi an8rwpoi sthn
> Ellada
> einai "Linux Certified". Pantws an kapoioi apo autous endiaferontai einai sigoura
> panw-panw sthn lista.
>
> Egw 8a proteina to parakatw, pou lambanei ypopsh tou to 2)
> (kai prin me parete sto kynhgi kai to giouxarisma,
> na pw oti DEN 8a eimai "tester", an kati tetoio isxusei): Na epilegei to DS.
> H skepsh einai h ekshs: An den broume kapoio allo tropo (px. eksetaseis
> pou gia na ginoun 8a xreiastei allh tosh an oxi perissoterh douleia)
> h epilogh prepei na ginei apo an8rwpous pou na "kseroun" to Linux
> kai ton xwro tou. To DS mporei kata kairous na mhn apoteleitai apo tous
> guru tou phrina, alla exei eklegei me thn logikh oti autoi oi an8rwpoi
> A) kseroun 5 pragmata gia to Linux kai B) einai an8rwpoi pou tous
> empisteuomaste. Ara, mporoun na epileksoun anamesa stous endiaferomenous.
>
> Epipleon, h xronikh diarkeia tou 1 xronou pou einai h 8hteia tou ekastote
> DS, einai sxetika mikrh gia na ginoun "atas8aleies" (gia na leme kai ta
> pragmata me to onoma tous, auto einai ena 8ema pou prepei na mas
> apasxolhsei, to pws 8a prostateutoume ws sullogos apo "paranomies").
> Malista, an h epilogh epilegetai apo to DS, 8a prepei h 8hteia twn "testers"
> na leigei AYTOMATA me thn lhksh ths 8hteias tou DS. Epipleon, to DS
> einai upo thn sunexh epithrhsh twn mellwn tou, afou an ta 2/5 apo
> auta zhthsoun Genikh Syneleush, tote ginetai kai se auth mporei
> na zhth8oun nees ekloges (bl. Katastatiko).
>
> Mporoume epipleon, na poume oti p.x. o Proedros tou DS den exei
> dikaiwma na ginei "tester", alla exei upoxrewsh na synupografei
> to pistopoihtiko gia na einai egkyro. Etsi, to ka8e pistopoihtiko
> 8a egkrinetai kai apo to DS (etsi eksasfalizoume kai to oti
> h etaireia 8a exei ekplhrwsei tis upoxrewseis ths, kati 8a dinei
> kai ston sullogo, etsi den einai?).
>
> Telos, to ka8e pistopoihtiko 8a prepei na dhmosieuetai kai sto
> www.hellug.gr
>
> Nomizw oti akomh kai an ta parapanw den kalyptoun (kuriws
> apo apopsh diafaneias) kapoious, mporoume na baloume kai
> epipleon periorismous, etsi wste na apotelesoun ena susthma
> me euruterh apodoxh.
>
> Apo kei kai pera, einai 8ema olwn mas (tou Syllogou), na kanoume
> swsth douleia gia na exei aksiopistia h "sfragida" mas.
>
> <snip>
>
> Telos, gnwrizw oti arketoi (an oxi POLLOI) ypeu8unoi etaireiwn
> ston Ellhniko xwro diabazoun thn lista auth. 8a tous parakalousa
> na mas poun pws tous fainetai h idea tou "HELLUG certified".
> Sto katw-katw, an den exoume kai thn dikh tous apodoxh kai to
> diko tous endiaferon, h prwtobouleia auth den exei kai poly nohma...
> 8a tous ikanopoiouse mono kai mono to autokollhto gia paradeigma,
> h 8a tous endiefere h dunatothta na dinoun kai ena antigrafo tou
> pistopoihtikou (isws me parathrhseis tou tester) mazi me to mhxanhma?
>
> Panayotis Vryonis.

H olh idea pou efere o Panayotis gia pistopoihsh mhxanhmatvn apo ton Hellug, einai
arketa kalh kai pisteyv ylopoihshmh se syntomo xroniko diasthma. Apo thn pleura mou
tha hthela na stathv se merika shmeia:

1) Sthn epilogh tvn texnikvn, h opoia prepei na einai kathara anteikimenikh (nai,
entaksei ton kserv ton tade, asxoleitai 5 xronia me Linux, symfvnv alla prepei na
yparxei kai kapoia kalypsh gia tis etairies pou tha dhlvsoyn endiaferon) Ara,
proteinv th dieksagvgh tests sxetika me HARDWARE kai LINUX stous endiaferomenous me
oso ginetai antikeimenika krithria, px apo to DS efoson mporei arketa melh tou na mh
dhlvsoyn endiaferon. Na yparxei kapoios titlos tou typou "Hellug Certified
Technician". Nai den yparxoyn polloi "Linux Cerified" antrvpoi sthn ellada, kairos na
ginei kati sxetiko me oso to dynaton ginetai pio epishmo vathmo. Dyskolo nai, edv
erxetai o rolos toy DS.

2) Tha prepei na ksekatharistei o arithmos tvn etairivn pou endiaferontai arxika kai
o arithmos tvn endiaferomenvn texnikvn pou tha analambanoun th dieksagvgh tests. To
teleutaio se megalytero vathmo...

3) Gia ths sythhkes ergasias tvn texnikvn, gia arxh nomizv oti tha prepei na
phgainoyn sto xvro thw etairias...

4) H pistopoihsh pou tha ginetai opvw eipvthke den prepei na afora mia sygkekrimenh
distribution. Vevaia vs tvra oi statheres ekdoseis tou pyrhna den lambanoyn ypopsh
toys gia orismena perifereiaka (px USB) se antithsh me tis dev. alla ypothetv oti h
pistopoihsh tha ginetai me xrhsh tvn stathervn.

5) O end-user (katanalvths) prepei na prostateuetai. Mporei dhladh me thn emfanish
tou logo na yparksoun paranomies apo thn pleura orismenvn etairivn pou tha thelhsoun
na ekmetaleytoun thn parapanv katastash. O end-user tha PREPEI (kai auto na einai
apaithsh tou Hellug), efoson to mhxanhma einai certified na pairnei analytikh anafora
me to yliko toy systhmatos, kai na dhlvnetai rhta apo ton Hellug oti prepei o idios
na to apaitei kai na einai ypoxrevsh ths etairias.

6) O Hellug exei to pleonasma tou onomatos pou yparxei edv kai kairo kai thn yparksh
ths antikeimenikothtas oson afora themata dioikhshs kai organvshs. Tha mporouse na
emfanistei mia etairia me Linux technicians kai na kanei tests, alla omvw den tha
eixe to varos tou Hellug...

Ayta gia thn vra...

Manos




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