From indyone at ee.teiath.gr Thu Oct 16 22:30:48 2003 From: indyone at ee.teiath.gr (indyone) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 22:30:48 +0300 Subject: =?ISO-8859-7?Q?=CA=E1=EB=E7=EC=DD=F1=E1_=F3=E1=F2=2E=2E=2E?= Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20031016223037.00a50560@artemis.ee.teiath.gr> At 10:09 15/10/2002, Theodore J. Soldatos wrote: >??????, ????? ??? ?????????? ?? ????? LDAP ?? PostgreSQL backend. ???????? >??? ? ??? ???? ??? SQL backend ???? LDAP ????? ????? ??????, ??? ??? ?? >documentation ????? ????????. ???? ???? ??? ????? ?????? ???? ??????? LDAP >??? SQL ????????????? ?? ??????? ????? ??????. ???? ????????? ??? ??? >??????????, ?? ?? software ????? ?????????? insert/update/delete, ??????? >Ok. ?? ????-???? ?? ???????? ??? ??? script ??? ?? ??????? ?? concistency >??? ????????. ????? ????????: > >1. ?? ????????? ??????? ?? ?????? LDAP ?? MySQL backend, ???? ??? ???????? >???????? ??' ??? ? PostgreSQL. > >2. ??????? ?? ?? ????????????, ?? ??????????? ???????????? ??? ???? ??? >????? ??? ??? LDAP. ?? ??? ???????????????? SQL backend, ???????? ?? >???????????????? ?? uid ??? ???? ?????? ??? ????? unique key ???? LDAP ??? >??? ????. ?? ?? dn ??? ???? ?????? ???? ????, ?????? ??? ??? ?????????? >??? ????????????. ??????? ??? ? ??????? ???? ????? ? ????????... ?????? authentication ?? LDAP ??? ????????? ???? ?????????? ?? ?????? ???? ?????????. ?? ???????? ?? ???????????????? ??????? classes ??? functions ??? PEAR (http://pear.php.net) ?????? ?????????? ??? ?? developers ??? ????? ????? ???? ???? ??????? (?????? ??? API ??? ?????? ????????? ??? ???? ?????????? ??? ?????) ???? ??? ?????????????? ??????? classes ??? PEAR ??? ??? ?????? ?? ??? ????????? ?????????? ??? ??????? ???????? ?????? ??????.... >??? ??? ????? ??? ??????? ??? ????? ??? ????, ?? ????? ?? ?????? ?? >????????? ?? ?????????? ???????????? tasks. ????? ?? ???????? ?? ????? ??? >?????? LDAP/MySQL ?? ?????? ??????? ????????; ????, ????? ?? ??????? ??? >??? ????????? ??? ????? ??? LDAP ??? ??? ??????? tables ??? ?????. ??? ??? ??????? ?? ?????? ????? ??? ??? ??? ????? ?????? features ??? Lugistics... ?? ????? ??? ????? ???????????. ?????? ?? ????? ???? ?? ??????? ???? ????????? ??? ????? ???? ???? ?? ????? ??? ?? ??????? ? ???????? ??? ??????????? ??? ????? ??? ???????... >?. > >-- >Theodore=J.=Soldatos=_\_====================================================== >= theodore at eexi.gr =_/_====== "Greed is never good" - Linus Torvalds ======== >= bafh at hellug.gr =_\_============ http://w4u.eexi.gr/~theodore ============ >= tsol at space.gr =_/_==================== Space Hellas ==================== > >-- >lugistics-devel mailing list -- http://lists.hellug.gr ??????? ????? ???? ??????????? ????????! -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.12 GCS/E d- s++: a-- C++ UL++ P L+>++++ E- W++ N+ o-- K- w O? M V-- PS PE- Y+ PGP- t 5 X+ R tv-- b+>++ DI-- D- G e>++ h-- r y+ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ From ktop at hellug.gr Wed Feb 12 20:03:35 2003 From: ktop at hellug.gr (Topoglidis Con/nos) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 20:03:35 +0200 Subject: Kalispera!Alive ? Message-ID: <20030212180335.GA27489@hellug.gr> kalispera, poioi einai alive se autin tin lista ? poioi mporoune na simmetexoune ? eipa na to ksana-ksekinisoume siga siga ! ego tha mporo na po pos "desmeuomai" apo tin epomeni week opote kai proteino siga siga na to ksekinisoume! ap'oti eida kai katalava! to VASIKOTERO einai i vasi! to schema tis ktl (kai me to pos tha kanoume telika to authentication!) apla tora thelo na kanete reply opoio exoun kai ton ligo xrono gia na voithisoun ... me opoion tropo mporoun! :) ayta ta oliga :)) -- Topoglidis Con/nos (Trying only ... to learn!) From bafh at hellug.gr Sun Feb 16 17:40:31 2003 From: bafh at hellug.gr (Theodore J. Soldatos) Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 17:40:31 +0200 Subject: Kalispera!Alive ? References: <20030212180335.GA27489@hellug.gr> Message-ID: <3E4FB0EF.3020701@hellug.gr> Sorry, lathos mailbox... *blush* to ksanastelno me sosto "from:". Topoglidis Con/nos wrote: > kalispera, > > > poioi einai alive se autin tin lista ? > poioi mporoune na simmetexoune ? > eipa na to ksana-ksekinisoume siga siga ! Nekra... > > ego tha mporo na po pos "desmeuomai" apo tin epomeni week > > opote kai proteino siga siga na to ksekinisoume! Ego den mporo na desmeyto, alla an mh ti allo, mporo na sxediaso LDAP kai vash. An thes pantos apo kapou na ksekinhseis, sthse se ena mhxanhma sou LDAP, PAM, to pam_ldap PAM module kai kapoia yphresia pou na xrhsimopoiei to pam_ldap gia authentication (p.x. enan IMAP, h akoma kai to ssh) kai des pos doylevei olo ayto, h katanohsh ayths ths istorias einai vasiko shmeio. > > ap'oti eida kai katalava! to VASIKOTERO einai i vasi! to schema tis ktl > (kai me to pos tha kanoume telika to authentication!) Ekana ena mikro psaksimo otan eixame protoksekinhsei, sxetika me thn pithanothta na xrhsimopoihsoyme SQL backend se LDAP, oste na xrhsimopoihsoume ta tables tou san "themelia" gia thn ypoloiph vash. Dystyxos ola einai se peiramatiko stadio kai den fainontai na doulevoun aksiopista, opote proteino na ftiaksoume ena "basic" skeleto ston LDAP (mono ta vasika - shadow account) kai na xrhsimopoihsoume to DN tou LDAP (to opoio einai monadiko) gia unique key sthn vash. O sygxronismos tha ginetai apo to software kai olo to authentication (apo to web interface os to login ston IMAP) na ginetai apo LDAP meso PAM h kateytheian ston LDAP (analoga thn periptosh). > > apla tora thelo na kanete reply opoio exoun kai ton ligo > xrono gia na voithisoun ... me opoion tropo mporoun! :) Exo kanei arketh douleia se kati paromoio sthn douleia, alla olo se perl (h opoia exei poly kalo support gia LDAP kai gia SQL, BTW). An xrhsimopoihsoume PHP, toulaxiston tora den prolavaino na katso na matho PHP. Pantos mporo na vohthiso opos eipa ston sxediasmo (na steilo px ena skeleto gia to LDAP kai enan sxediasmo vashs) kai apantontas se erothseis peri LDAP kai SQL. > > ayta ta oliga :)) Kati pou prepei na provlepsoume apo thn arxh einai poies yphresies tha kanoun xrhsh tou LDAP gia authentication kai isos kai authorization. Isos kapoies apo aytes na exoun epipleon apaithseis sto LDAP schema (ena paradeigma pou mou erxetai sto myalo, oi teleytaies ekdoseis ths Samba (den exoume, san paradeigma to ferno) exoun epipleon schema ston LDAP). Isos kati analogo symvainei kai se alles periptoseis kai prepei na to provlepsoume. An malista mpleksoume kai me authorization, einai pio periploko, opote prepei na doume apo thn arxh ti tha xreiastoume. O nmav akouei ? :-) Isos xreiastei na epileksoume kai allo software se kapoies periptoseis analoga me tis dynatothtes tou se sxesh me PAM kai LDAP. T. -- Theodore=J.=Soldatos=_\_====================================================== = theodore at eexi.gr =_/_====== "Greed is never good" - Linus Torvalds ======== = bafh at hellug.gr =_\_============ http://w4u.eexi.gr/~theodore ============ = tsol at space.gr =_/_==================== Space Hellas ==================== From ktop at hellug.gr Mon Feb 17 16:31:42 2003 From: ktop at hellug.gr (Topoglidis Con/nos) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 16:31:42 +0200 Subject: Kalispera!Alive ? In-Reply-To: <3E4FB0EF.3020701@hellug.gr> References: <20030212180335.GA27489@hellug.gr> <3E4FB0EF.3020701@hellug.gr> Message-ID: <20030217143142.GG677@hellug.gr> simfono! prepei na ta dokimaso ta PAM epaiska ligaki me to RedHat ... (epeidi ithela na do kati) einai kala .... alla diskola tha kanoume kati me mono sql backend! i idea tou auth mono apo ldap einai poli kali kai mporei na paiksei gia ta panta ... ligo poli oloi ipostirizoune LDAP pleon :) kai IMAP kai SSH kai sendmail .. ta panta :) apla tha prepei na "desoume" to table tis vasis gia ta user names me to id tou ldap! eite me to username san key! tropos tha vrethei! stin xeirteri kanoume ena perl script pou tha tin kanei replicate kathe vradi! ekei tha kollisoume! :) ego prepei na pao na paro ena kouti gia to PC mou ... kapoia stigmi giati efera PC .. alla kouti den! :) aaa kai ena pio megalo disko :) opote eimaste idi 3 na asxolithoume me to sxediasmo tis vasis! thelete na kano ego ena prosxedio ? alithia iparxei kanena programma gia autin tin douleia ? giati sto xeri ta kano... sto pc ? On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 05:40:31PM +0200, Theodore J. Soldatos wrote: > Sorry, lathos mailbox... *blush* to ksanastelno me sosto "from:". > > > Topoglidis Con/nos wrote: > > kalispera, > > > > > > poioi einai alive se autin tin lista ? > > poioi mporoune na simmetexoune ? > > eipa na to ksana-ksekinisoume siga siga ! > > Nekra... > > > > > ego tha mporo na po pos "desmeuomai" apo tin epomeni week > > > > opote kai proteino siga siga na to ksekinisoume! > > Ego den mporo na desmeyto, alla an mh ti allo, mporo na sxediaso LDAP kai > vash. > > An thes pantos apo kapou na ksekinhseis, sthse se ena mhxanhma sou LDAP, > PAM, > to pam_ldap PAM module kai kapoia yphresia pou na xrhsimopoiei to pam_ldap > gia > authentication (p.x. enan IMAP, h akoma kai to ssh) kai des pos doylevei olo > ayto, h katanohsh ayths ths istorias einai vasiko shmeio. > > > > > ap'oti eida kai katalava! to VASIKOTERO einai i vasi! to schema tis ktl > > (kai me to pos tha kanoume telika to authentication!) > > Ekana ena mikro psaksimo otan eixame protoksekinhsei, sxetika me thn > pithanothta na xrhsimopoihsoyme SQL backend se LDAP, oste na > xrhsimopoihsoume > ta tables tou san "themelia" gia thn ypoloiph vash. Dystyxos ola einai se > peiramatiko stadio kai den fainontai na doulevoun aksiopista, opote proteino > na ftiaksoume ena "basic" skeleto ston LDAP (mono ta vasika - shadow > account) > kai na xrhsimopoihsoume to DN tou LDAP (to opoio einai monadiko) gia unique > key sthn vash. O sygxronismos tha ginetai apo to software kai olo to > authentication (apo to web interface os to login ston IMAP) na ginetai apo > LDAP meso PAM h kateytheian ston LDAP (analoga thn periptosh). > > > > > apla tora thelo na kanete reply opoio exoun kai ton ligo > > xrono gia na voithisoun ... me opoion tropo mporoun! :) > > Exo kanei arketh douleia se kati paromoio sthn douleia, alla olo se perl (h > opoia exei poly kalo support gia LDAP kai gia SQL, BTW). An xrhsimopoihsoume > PHP, toulaxiston tora den prolavaino na katso na matho PHP. Pantos mporo na > vohthiso opos eipa ston sxediasmo (na steilo px ena skeleto gia to LDAP kai > enan sxediasmo vashs) kai apantontas se erothseis peri LDAP kai SQL. > > > > > > ayta ta oliga :)) > > Kati pou prepei na provlepsoume apo thn arxh einai poies yphresies tha > kanoun > xrhsh tou LDAP gia authentication kai isos kai authorization. Isos kapoies > apo > aytes na exoun epipleon apaithseis sto LDAP schema (ena paradeigma pou mou > erxetai sto myalo, oi teleytaies ekdoseis ths Samba (den exoume, san > paradeigma to ferno) exoun epipleon schema ston LDAP). Isos kati analogo > symvainei kai se alles periptoseis kai prepei na to provlepsoume. An malista > mpleksoume kai me authorization, einai pio periploko, opote prepei na doume > apo thn arxh ti tha xreiastoume. O nmav akouei ? :-) Isos xreiastei na > epileksoume kai allo software se kapoies periptoseis analoga me tis > dynatothtes tou se sxesh me PAM kai LDAP. > > T. > > > > -- > Theodore=J.=Soldatos=_\_====================================================== > = theodore at eexi.gr =_/_====== "Greed is never good" - Linus Torvalds > ======== > = bafh at hellug.gr =_\_============ http://w4u.eexi.gr/~theodore > ============ > = tsol at space.gr =_/_==================== Space Hellas > ==================== > > -- > lugistics-devel mailing list -- http://lists.hellug.gr -- Topoglidis Con/nos (Trying only ... to learn!) From ktop at hellug.gr Fri Feb 28 15:36:59 2003 From: ktop at hellug.gr (Topoglidis Con/nos) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 15:36:59 +0200 Subject: kalimera!pame? Message-ID: <1046439419.3e5f65fb670e6@www.youthcamp.gr> kalimera se olous!!! pisteuo na katharisate apo eksetastikes ktl ... to ksekiname loipon ? ti lete ? -- Topoglidis Constantinos (Trying only ... to learn!) From ktop at hellug.gr Mon Jul 7 11:16:00 2003 From: ktop at hellug.gr (Topoglidis Con/nos) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 11:16:00 +0300 Subject: Lugistics! Message-ID: <20030707081600.GA32549@hellug.gr> kalimera kai apo edo, den ksero pioi kai posoi diavasane to mail stin hellug gia to lugistics tha ithela episis na do apo edo posoi einai alive gia na tous kratiso stin lista ... kai posoi akoma endiaferontai gia to LUGistics ! ego thelo na to arxisoume to sintomotero ... osoi akoma theloun as mou steiloun ena mail ... na mazeutoume na doume pos tha proxorisoume! :) aytaaa -- Topoglidis Con/nos (Trying only ... to learn!) From bafh at hellug.gr Mon Jul 7 14:53:38 2003 From: bafh at hellug.gr (Theodore J. Soldatos) Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 14:53:38 +0300 Subject: Lugistics! In-Reply-To: <20030707081600.GA32549@hellug.gr> References: <20030707081600.GA32549@hellug.gr> Message-ID: <3F095F42.70702@hellug.gr> Topoglidis Con/nos wrote: > kalimera kai apo edo, > > den ksero pioi kai posoi diavasane to mail stin hellug gia to lugistics > tha ithela episis na do apo edo posoi einai alive > gia na tous kratiso stin lista ... > kai posoi akoma endiaferontai gia to LUGistics ! > > > ego thelo na to arxisoume to sintomotero ... > osoi akoma theloun as mou steiloun ena mail ... > na mazeutoume na doume pos tha proxorisoume! :) > > > > aytaaa > > Ego eimai akoma edo... Den mporo omos na vohthiso pros to paron. Isos meta ton Oktovrio. Pantos tha hthela na parameino sthn lista, mporei h empeiria mou se LDAP kai RDBMS na fanei xrhsimh esto kai me morfh sxoliasmou... T. -- Theodore=J.=Soldatos=_\_====================================================== = theodore at eexi.gr =_/_====== "Greed is never good" - Linus Torvalds ======== = bafh at hellug.gr =_\_============ http://w4u.eexi.gr/~theodore ============ = tsol at space.gr =_/_==================== Space Hellas ==================== From djart at linux.gr Mon Jul 7 15:29:08 2003 From: djart at linux.gr (DJ Art) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 15:29:08 +0300 Subject: Lugistics! In-Reply-To: <20030707081600.GA32549@hellug.gr> References: <20030707081600.GA32549@hellug.gr> Message-ID: <200307071529.08562.djart@linux.gr> On Monday 07 July 2003 11:16, Topoglidis Con/nos wrote: > kalimera kai apo edo, > > den ksero pioi kai posoi diavasane to mail stin hellug gia to Εγώ είμαι μέσα. Και επίσης, επειδή στο παρελθόν είδαμε ότι όπου λαλούν πολλοί κοκόροι αργεί να ξημερώσει, θα πρότεινα να μπείς project leader με τη μία, να μαζευτούν 3-4 το πολύ άτομα και να ξεκινήσουμε. Αν κάπου χρειαστούμε βοήθεια, μπορούμε να ρωτήσουμε τους έχοντες εμπειρία. Επίσης, υπάρχει ήδη cvs repository για το Lugistics-devel (λεπτομέρειες υπάρχουν στο http://lists.hellug.gr/mailman/listinfo/lugistics-devel αν θυμάμαι καλά) > lugistics tha ithela episis na do apo edo posoi einai alive > gia na tous kratiso stin lista ... Θα μπορούσες να μην τους διαγράψεις όσους δεν ενδιαφέρονται :) Δεν κάνει κακό να βλέπουνε ;) > ego thelo na to arxisoume to sintomotero ... > osoi akoma theloun as mou steiloun ena mail ... > na mazeutoume na doume pos tha proxorisoume! :) Θα πώ και στο Δημήτρη το Γλέζο αν ενδιαφέρεται να συμμετέχει (είναι κι αυτός php hardcore fan). Απλώς, είναι σε mini-διακοπές τώρα και θα του το πώ προς Πέμπτη μεριά. -- Kyritsis Athanasios - What's your ONE purpose in life ? - To explode, of course! ;-) From sbolis at freemail.gr Mon Jul 7 17:55:47 2003 From: sbolis at freemail.gr (Spiros Bolis) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 17:55:47 +0300 (EEST) Subject: Lugistics! In-Reply-To: <20030707081600.GA32549@hellug.gr> Message-ID: On Mon, 7 Jul 2003, Topoglidis Con/nos wrote: > tha ithela episis na do apo edo posoi einai alive > gia na tous kratiso stin lista ... re sy Kwsta.. gi ayto to logo ftia3ame th lista, tha 3anaftia3eis asy allh? Egw dhlwsa pws tha meinw parathrhths giati to poly webmasteriliki me ekane na exw mia kalyterh aisthish toy ti xreiazetai. An thelete na brethoyme, egw eimai mesa ;-) Kalhspera, From indyone at ee.teiath.gr Wed Jul 9 05:19:20 2003 From: indyone at ee.teiath.gr (indyone :o)) Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 05:19:20 +0300 Subject: Lugistics! In-Reply-To: <20030707081600.GA32549@hellug.gr> References: <20030707081600.GA32549@hellug.gr> Message-ID: <3F0B7BA8.4000607@ee.teiath.gr> Gia na mhn 3exniomaste kai egw eimai edw! Mporw kai exw thn ore3h na boh8hsw, kai hdh exw kapoia pragmata na proteinw... Aytos pantws pou 8a epimeinw einai na mazeytoume na gnwristoume apo konta, etsi syzhtwntas eimai sigouros oti 8a kanoume mia pio grhgorh arxh se sxesh me th lista... -- +----------------------------------------------------------+ | Software Failure. Press left mouse button to continue. | | Guru Meditation #00000025.65045338 | +----------------------------------------------------------+ From bafh at hellug.gr Wed Jul 9 22:13:26 2003 From: bafh at hellug.gr (Theodore J. Soldatos) Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 22:13:26 +0300 Subject: Lugistics ToDo (oxi final) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3F0C6956.5010909@hellug.gr> Topoglidis Constantinos wrote: > kalimera, > > gia osous endiaferontai gia to LUGistics kai eipane pos theloune ena > prosxedio tou ToDo list ... gia na doune an prolavainoun .... > to pira apo mail stin lista lugistics-devel pou tha prepei na graftoun > osoi theloun na asxolithoun telika! > Epishs yparxei to kommati tou LDAP. Eixame syzhthsei paliotera na exoume kai enan LDAP, oste oles oi yphresies na kanoun authenticate apo ekei. Ego eixa koitaksei ta PAM modules gia MySQL kai Postgres alla den yparxei tipota aksiopisto. Synepos, an theloume to kathe melos tou syllogou na exei ena monadiko password gia ola (pshfofories, mail, CVS, ta panta), tha xreiastei na exoume enan LDAP. Eixa akoma koitaksei thn periptosh na xrhsimopoihsoume thn idia thn vash gia backend tou LDAP (kati pou tha aplopoiouse arketa ta pragmata), alla toulaxiston prin 5-6 mhnes h yposthriksh tou OpenLDAP gi ayto htan sta spargana. Apo pleyras software xreiazontai ta ekshs: Yposthriksh apo ton kodika *kai* gia LDAP, dhladh otan dhmiourgeitai/allazetai/diagrafetai enas xrhsths sthn vash na ginetai to idio kai ston LDAP. Omoios kai kata thn allagh password. Sthn allagh password tha prepei na proseksoume pou tha ginetai h allagh, dhladh an ginetai apo LDAP tha prepei na ginetai replicate sthn vash kai antistrofa. O pio sigouros tropos einai na periorisoume tis allages password mono sto web interface, oste na yparxei consistency. Ena script pou tha mporei na dhmiourgei to LDAP tree apo to mhden, xrhsimopoiontas dedomena apo thn vash. Mia kai h vash tha periexei ypersynolo ton dedomenon tou LDAP, kalo tha einai na mporoume ana pasa stigmh na mporoume na anadhmiourghsoume to LDAP tree apo thn vash. Ena script pou na trexei apo cron kai na elegxei to consistency metaksy vashs kai LDAP. Etsi tha prolavoume tyxon provlhmata apo bugs ston kodika. T. -- Theodore=J.=Soldatos=_\_====================================================== = theodore at eexi.gr =_/_====== "Greed is never good" - Linus Torvalds ======== = bafh at hellug.gr =_\_============ http://w4u.eexi.gr/~theodore ============ = tsol at space.gr =_/_==================== Space Hellas ==================== From ktop at hellug.gr Tue Jul 22 10:00:36 2003 From: ktop at hellug.gr (Topoglidis Con/nos) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 10:00:36 +0300 Subject: Meeting Message-ID: <20030722070035.GA1045@hellug.gr> kalimera se olous, signomi gia tin apousia mou ... alla logo douleias kai epeidi den eixa dei ta mail stin lista den apantisa .... proteino na sinantithoume sto meeting tis Hellug aurio tetarti sto mandraki stin kaisariani ... oi perissoteroi apo mas ekei tha einai ... ti lete ? ena live meeting den tha mas evlapte .. arkei na kanoume douleia perimeno apopseis/gnomes/sxolia .... -- Topoglidis Con/nos (Trying only ... to learn!) From indyone at ee.teiath.gr Tue Jul 22 11:41:25 2003 From: indyone at ee.teiath.gr (indyone :o)) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 11:41:25 +0300 Subject: Meeting In-Reply-To: <20030722070035.GA1045@hellug.gr> References: <20030722070035.GA1045@hellug.gr> Message-ID: <3F1CF8B5.3080209@ee.teiath.gr> Epeidh ergazomai ws peripou stis 8 peripou, kai epishs den exw diko mou metaforiko oxhma, 8a mou einai dyskolo na er8w sthn kaisarianh, pou einai epishs arketea makria apo mena. Isws an 8elate na ginei kapou pio konta sto kentro tis A8hnas, tote 8a frontiza na mhn xasw tetoia synanthsh :o) (An einai kiolas san ayth pou eixe ginei persi...) Topoglidis Con/nos wrote: >kalimera se olous, > > >signomi gia tin apousia mou ... alla logo douleias >kai epeidi den eixa dei ta mail stin lista den apantisa .... > >proteino na sinantithoume sto meeting tis Hellug aurio tetarti sto >mandraki stin kaisariani ... oi perissoteroi apo mas ekei tha einai ... > >ti lete ? > >ena live meeting den tha mas evlapte .. arkei na kanoume douleia > >perimeno apopseis/gnomes/sxolia .... > > > > > -- +----------------------------------------------------------+ | Software Failure. Press left mouse button to continue. | | Guru Meditation #00000025.65045338 | +----------------------------------------------------------+