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Áêïëïõèïýí ïé êáíïíéóìïß ôçò ëßóôáò (netiquette):

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1. Linux-Greek-Users Netiquette (v1.6.0 27/02/2011)

Ôï ðáñüí êåßìåíï ðåñéÝ÷åé ðëçñïöïñßåò ãéá ôçí lgu êáé ãéá ôï ðùò èá
ðñÝðåé íá "óõìðåñéöÝñåóôå" ìÝóá óå áõôÞí. Ðñéí óôåßëåôå ìçíýìáôá óôç
ëßóôá, äéáâÜóôå áõôü ôï êåßìåíï.

1.1 Ôé åßíáé ç linux-greek-users;

Ç ëßóôá åßíáé Ýíáò ÷þñïò üðïõ ïé ¸ëëçíåò ÷ñÞóôåò ôïõ linux ìðïñïýí íá
óõæçôÞóïõí ãåíéêÜ ãéá ôç ÷ñÞóç êáé ï,ôéäÞðïôå Üëëï èÝìá Ý÷åé ó÷Ýóç ìå ôï
linux, áëëÜ êáé íá æçôÞóïõí âïÞèåéá áí Ý÷ïõí êÜðïéï ðñüâëçìá ìå ôï linux
óýóôçìÜ ôïõò.

Ç ëßóôá áðåõèýíåôáé óå üëïõò ôïõò ÷ñÞóôåò ôïõ linux. ÐñïóÝîôå üìùò üôé ç
ôåñÜóôéá ðëåéïøçößá ôùí åñùôÞóåùí ðïõ èá Ýêáíå Ýíáò íÝïò ÷ñÞóôçò Ý÷ïõí
áðáíôçèåß äåêÜäåò öïñÝò. Ãéá áõôü óéãïõñåõôåßôå üôé Ý÷åôå øÜîåé êáëÜ óôá
ó÷åôéêÜ Ýããñáöá ðñéí óôåßëåôå ìéá åñþôçóç. Äåßôå ðáñáêÜôù ãéá ðçãÝò  
ðëçñïöïñéþí.

1.2 Ôá ìçíýìáôá íá ôá ãñÜöù ìå åëëçíéêïýò Þ ëáôéíéêïýò ÷áñáêôÞñåò;

¼ðùò èÝëåôå. Íá îÝñåôå üìùò üôé ìåñéêïß ÷ñÞóôåò Ý÷ïõí ðñüóâáóç óå
ôåñìáôéêÜ ÷ùñßò åëëçíéêïýò ÷áñáêôÞñåò ïðüôå äå èá ìðïñÝóïõí íá äéáâÜóïõí
ôéò åñùôÞóåéò/áðáíôÞóåéò óáò (áí êáé ï áñéèìüò ôïõò åßíáé ìéêñüò). Áí
óôÝëíåôå óôá åëëçíéêÜ, öñïíôßóôå ï mailer óáò íá ôá óôÝëíåé ùò
UTF-8 Þ ISO-8859-7. ÄéáöïñåôéêÜ äå èá ìðïñåß íá ôá äåé êáíåßò.

Åðßóçò, ìçí óôÝëíåôå óå HTML. Ðïëëïß ÷ñçóéìïðïéïýí text mode ïðüôå äå èá
ìðïñÝóïõí íá äéáâÜóïõí ôá e-mail óáò êáé áðëÜ èá åêíåõñéóôïýí. ÐñïóÝîôå
üôé ï Netscape Messenger êáé ôï Outlook Express åî ïñéóìïý óôÝëíïõí
html.

1.3 Ðþò èá ðñÝðåé íá óôÝëíù åñùôÞóåéò;

Ðñéí óôåßëåôå e-mail óéãïõñåõôåßôå üôé Ý÷åôå øÜîåé:

   * ôéò man êáé info óåëßäåò óôï óýóôçìÜ óáò.
   * ôá ó÷åôéêÜ HOWTO (http://www.linuxdoc.org) (Þ ôá ìåôáöñáóìÝíá
     óôï Hellug http://howto.hellug.gr).
   * ôï Magaz óôï http://magaz.hellug.gr.
   * ôá archives ôçò ëßóôáò óôï http://lists.hellug.gr/lgu.php

Ôá archives, ôï Magaz êáé ôï site ôïõ Hellug Ý÷ïõí ìç÷áíÞ áíáæÞôçóçò ãéá
íá âñåßôå åýêïëá êáé ãñÞãïñá ü,ôé æçôÜôå. Óéãïõñåõôåßôå üôé üíôùò äåí
õðÜñ÷åé êÜôé óôá ðáñáðÜíù! Åßíáé ðïëý åíï÷ëçôéêü íá óôÝëíåôå
÷éëéïåéðùìÝíåò åñùôÞóåéò. Áí äå âñåßôå ëýóç óôá ðáñáðÜíù, óôåßëåôå ôçí
åñþôçóç óáò áêïëïõèþíôáò ôïõò ðáñáêÜôù áðëïýò áëëÜ óçìáíôéêïýò êáíüíåò
(ðñïò åîõðçñÝôçóç üëùí):

   * Ìçí óôÝëíåôå ðáíôåëþò Üó÷åôá ðñÜãìáôá ìå Linux. Äåí ìáò åíäéáöÝñïõí.
   * Ãéá åñùôÞóåéò ó÷åôéêÝò ìå unix, õðÜñ÷åé êáé ç ëßóôá unix-admin-gr
     Äåßôå ôï http://lists.hellug.gr/mailman/listinfo/unix-admin-gr
   * ÂÜëôå Ýíá ó÷åôéêü subject óôï e-mail óáò. Subjects ôïõ óôõë
     "âïÞèåéá, áñ÷Üñéïò" Þ "ðñüâëçìá ìå ôï linux" äå âïçèÜíå ïýôå ôïõò
     áíáãíþóôåò, ïýôå üóïõò øÜ÷íïõí ãéá ðáñüìïéï ðñüâëçìá óôá archives.
   * ÐñïóðáèÞóôå íá óôÝëíåôå üóï ðïéï ó÷åôéêÝò ðëçñïöïñßåò ãßíåôáé ìå ôï
     èÝìá. ¸íá áðëü "äå ìðïñþ íá óõíäåèþ óôï internet ìå Redhat 6" äå
     âïçèÜ êáíÝíáí êáé ôï áðïôÝëåóìá åßíáé êáé ç áðÜíôçóç íá áñãåß êáé
     íá óôÝëíïíôáé ìçíýìáôá ôïõ ôýðïõ "óôåßëå ìáò ôï ôÜäå" ðïõ áðëÜ
     åðéâáñýíïõí ôç ëßóôá áêüìá ðåñéóóüôåñï.
   * ÁëëÜæåôå ôï subject üôáí áëëÜæåôå ôï èÝìá.
   * Ìðïñåßôå üôáí óáò áðáíôÞóïõí êáé ëõèåß ôï ðñüâëçìÜ óáò, íá ãñÜøåôå
     Ýíá e-mail ìå ôçí ðñïóèÞêç ôïõ "FIXED:" Þ êÜôé ðáñüìïéï óôï èÝìá,
     êáé íá ðåñéãñÜøåôå ìå ëßãá ëüãéá ðùò ôåëéêÜ ëýóáôå ôï ðñüâëçìÜ óáò.
     Ìå áõôü ôïí ôñüðï äçìéïõñãåßôáé ìéá ðåñßëçøç ôïõ üëïõ thread êáé
     âïçèÜôå êÜðïéïí ìå ðáñüìïéï ðñüâëçìá íá âñåé ôç ëýóç ðïëý
     ãñçãïñüôåñá.

ÃåíéêÜ, áí åßóôå íÝïò óôç ëßóôá êáé ãåíéêÜ óå ëßóôåò ôá÷õäñïìåßïõ,
äéáâÜóôå ôá ìçíýìáôá ðïõ óôÝëíïíôáé ãéá ìéá åâäïìÜäá ðåñßðïõ ãéá íá
êáôáëÜâåôå ôïí ôñüðï óõìðåñéöïñÜò óå ôÝôïéïõò ÷þñïõò.

1.4 Ðùò íá áðáíôþ;

Óå ãåíéêÝò ãñáììÝò ðñïóðáèåßôå íá åßóôå óýíôïìïé, áöïý ï ÷ñüíïò üëùí ìáò
áëëÜ êáé ôï bandwidth åßíáé ðåñéïñéóìÝíá. Åðßóçò, áðïöýãåôå áðáíôÞóåéò
åñéóôéêÝò (êáé ãåíéêÜ ôéò "åîõðíÜäåò") áöïý ôï e-mail åßíáé ôåëåßùò
áðñüóùðï êáé åýêïëá ìðïñåß íá ðáñåîçãçèåß êáé íá ïäçãÞóåé óå flames.
ÁðáíôÜôå  üðùò èÝëåôå íá óáò áðáíôïýí. Áðïöýãåôå êáé áíïýóéá e-mail
(Üó÷åôá ó÷üëéá êëð). Ðñïôéìüôåñï, ðÜíôùò, åßíáé íá ìçí áðáíôÜôå áí äåí
îÝñåôå/åßóáóôå óßãïõñïé.

Áí êÜðïéïò ñþôçóå êÜôé ðïõ Ý÷åé åñùôçèåß êáé óôï ðáñåëèüí ìçí ôïõ
áðáíôÞóåôå (Þ óôåßëôå ôïõ ðñïóùðéêü). Äåí õðÜñ÷åé ëüãïò íá ãåìßæåé ç
ëßóôá ìå ìçíýìáôá ôïõ ôýðïõ "êïßôá óôá archives/magaz".

1.5 ÊÜðïéïò ìïõ áðÜíôçóå õâñéóôéêÜ/ìå Ýèéîå/êëð. Íá ôïõ áðáíôÞóù;

¼÷é ìÝóù ôçò ëßóôáò. Ãéá ôÝôïéïõ åßäïõò èÝìáôá íá óôÝëíåôå ðñïóùðéêÜ
e-mail. Äåí åíäéáöÝñåé êáíÝíá óôç ëßóôá ïé ðñïóùðéêÝò óáò äéáöïñÝò ìå
êÜðïéïí.

1.6 Ãåíéêïß êáíüíåò êáëÞò óõìðåñéöïñÜò

   * ÐñïóÝîôå ôç ãëþóóá ðïõ ÷ñçóéìïðïéåßôå. Ç ëßóôá åßíáé äéáèÝóéìç óå
     ðïëý êüóìï êáé äå ìéëÜôå óôïõò ößëïõò óáò ìüíï. Ç ëßóôá áõôÞ
     áðïôåëåß êáé Ýíáí ôñüðï íá äåß÷íïõìå ôçí åéêüíá ôïõ Linux óôïí
     õðüëïéðï êüóìï.
   * Attachments: ÃåíéêÜ åßíáé êáëü íá ìçí óôÝëíåôå áñ÷åßá óôç ëßóôá. Áí
     ÷ñåéÜæåôáé íá óôåßëåôå êÜðïéï áñ÷åßï ðïõ Ý÷åé ó÷Ýóç ìå ôï ðñüâëçìÜ
     óáò ðñïóðáèÞóôå íá âñåßôå ôï ðéèáíü óçìåßï ôïõ ðñïâëÞìáôïò êáé íá
     óôåßëåôå ìüíï áõôü. Ôï íá óôÝëíåôå üëï ôï syslog äåí åßíáé êáëÞ
     ôáêôéêÞ!
   * Flames: Ôá ìçíýìáôÜ óáò íá ìçí åßíáé åñéóôéêÜ êáé íá ìçí åíï÷ëïýí.
     Ôï e-mail åßíáé áðñüóùðï êáé åýêïëá ðáñåîçãåßôáé êÜôé ðïõ ãñÜøáôå.
     Åðßóçò ìçí áñ÷ßæåôå ðïëÝìïõò ãéá ôï ðïéá åßíáé ç êáëýôåñç äéáíïìÞ,
     window manager, êëð. ¼ðùò ëÝíå "ðåñß ïñÝîåùò ïõäåßò ëüãïò".
     Áðïöýãåôå óõæçôÞóåéò ãéá Üëëá ëåéôïõñãéêÜ. Mçí ó÷ïëéÜæåôå ôï ôé
     ëÜèïò åéðþèçêå óôï ôÜäå ðåñéïäéêü Þ ôï ôé Üó÷çìï åßðå ï äåßíá
     áñèñïãñÜöïò ãéá ôï linux. ¼,ôé ðáñÜðïíá êáé áðüøåéò Ý÷åôå ìðïñåßôå
     íá ôéò óôåßëåôå  óôïõò õðáßôéïõò.
   * Quotes: ¼ôáí êÜíåôå reply óå êÜðïéï e-mail êüøôå üóï ðïéï ðïëëÜ
     ìðïñåßôå áðü ôï áñ÷éêü ìýíçìá. Küøôå ôï footer ðïõ ðñïóèÝôåé ï
     mail-server óôï ôÝëïò êÜèå ìçíýìáôïò. ÁöÞóôå ìüíï ôá ó÷åôéêÜ ìå ôçí
     áðÜíôçóÞ óáò ãéá íá êáôáëÜâïõí ïé õðüëïéðïé óå ôé áðáíôÜôå.
     Ï,ôéäÞðïôå Üëëï ÷áñáìßæåé bandwidth êáé ÷ñüíï.
   * Signatures: ÃåíéêÜ åßíáé êáëü íá ðåñéïñßóåôå ôï signature óôá
     e-mail óáò óå 4-5 óåéñÝò ôï ðïëý.
   * ÁããåëéÝò: Êáëü åßíáé íá áðïöåýãåôå íá óôÝëíåôå áããåëßåò ãéá
     ðñïóöïñÜ åñãáóßáò. ×ñçóéìïðïéÞóôå ôï http://ads.hellug.gr êáëýôåñá.
   * Spam: Óå êáìßá ðåñßðôùóç äå èá ðñÝðåé íá óôåßëåôå spam mail óôç
     ëßóôá. ¶ó÷åôá äéáöçìéóôéêÜ, ìçíýìáôá-áëõóßäåò, êëð áðáãïñåýïíôáé.
     Ïðïéïò óôåßëåé ôÝôïéá ìçíýìáôá èá äéáãñÜöåôáé áðü ôç ëßóôá êáé èá
     ãßíåôáé ban áðü ôï domain ôïõ Hellug.

1.7 Áñ÷åßá ôçò ëßóôáò

Ç ëßóôá Linux-Greek-Users åßíáé äçìüóéá êáé áíïé÷ôÞ ëßóôá óõæçôÞóåùí. 
H äéáãñáöÞ ìçíõìÜôùí áðü ôá áñ÷åßá ôçò äçìüóéáò ëßóôáò äåí åßíáé ìéá 
óõíçèéóìÝíç äéáäéêáóßá êáé ùò åê ôïýôïõ äåí ðñïóöÝñåôáé ùò äõíáôüôçôá
óå üóïõò Ý÷ïõí óõììåôÜó÷åé óôéò óõæçôÞóåéò ôéò.

1.8 Áðïðïßçóç äéêáéþìáôïò êáé åõèõíþí (DISCLAIMER)

Ôá ìçíýìáôá ôçò ëßóôáò åêöñÜæïõí ðñïóùðéêÝò áðüøåéò ôïõ åêÜóôïôå áðïóôïëÝá
êáé ü÷é ôïõ óõëëüãïõ Hellug. Ç ¸íùóç ×ñçóôþí êáé Ößëùí Linux ÅëëÜäïò äåí 
öÝñåé êáìßá åõèýíç ãéá ôï ðåñéå÷üìåíü ôïõò.

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1. Linux-Greek-Users Netiquette (v1.6.0 27/02/2011)

To paron keimeno periexei plhrofories gia thn lgu kai gia to pws 8a
prepei na "symperifereste" mesa se aythn. Prin steilete mhnumata sth
lista, diabaste ayto to keimeno.

1.1 Ti einai h linux-greek-users;

H lista einai enas xwros opoy oi Ellhnes xrhstes toy linux mporoun na
syzhthsoyn genika gia th xrhsh kai o,tidhpote allo 8ema exei sxesh me to
linux, alla kai na zhthsoyn boh8eia an exoyn kapoio problhma me to linux
susthma toys.

H lista apey8unetai se oloys toys xrhstes toy linux. Prosejte omws oti h
terastia pleiochfia twn erwthsewn poy 8a ekane enas neos xrhsths exoyn
apanth8ei dekades fores. Gia ayto sigoyreyteite oti exete cajei kala sta
sxetika eggrafa prin steilete mia erwthsh. Deite parakatw gia phges 
plhroforiwn.

1.2 Ta mhnumata na ta grafw me ellhnikous h latinikous xarakthres;

Opws 8elete. Na jerete omws oti merikoi xrhstes exoyn prosbash se
termatika xwris ellhnikous xarakthres opote de 8a mporesoyn na diabasoyn
tis erwthseis/apanthseis sas (an kai o ari8mos toys einai mikros). An
stelnete sta ellhnika, frontiste o mailer sas na ta stelnei ws
UTF-8 h ISO-8859-7. Diaforetika de 8a mporei na ta dei kaneis.

Epishs, mhn stelnete se HTML. Polloi xrhsimopoioun text mode opote de 8a
mporesoyn na diabasoyn ta e-mail sas kai apla 8a ekneyristoun. Prosejte
oti o Netscape Messenger kai to Outlook Express ej orismou stelnoyn
html.

1.3 Pws 8a prepei na stelnw erwthseis;

Prin steilete e-mail sigoyreyteite oti exete cajei:

   * tis man kai info selides sto susthma sas.
   * ta sxetika HOWTO (http://www.linuxdoc.org) (h ta metafrasmena
     sto Hellug http://howto.hellug.gr).
   * to Magaz sto http://magaz.hellug.gr.
   * ta archives ths listas sto http://lists.hellug.gr/lgu.php

Ta archives, to Magaz kai to site toy Hellug exoyn mhxanh anazhthshs gia
na breite eukola kai grhgora o,ti zhtate. Sigoyreyteite oti ontws den
yparxei kati sta parapanw! Einai polu enoxlhtiko na stelnete
xilioeipwmenes erwthseis. An de breite lush sta parapanw, steilete thn
erwthsh sas akoloy8wntas toys parakatw aplous alla shmantikous kanones
(pros ejyphrethsh olwn):

   * Mhn stelnete pantelws asxeta pragmata me Linux. Den mas endiaferoyn.
   * Gia erwthseis sxetikes me unix, yparxei kai h lista unix-admin-gr
     Deite to http://lists.hellug.gr/mailman/listinfo/unix-admin-gr
   * Balte ena sxetiko subject sto e-mail sas. Subjects toy styl
     "boh8eia, arxarios" h "problhma me to linux" de boh8ane oute toys
     anagnwstes, oute osoys caxnoyn gia paromoio problhma sta archives.
   * Prospa8hste na stelnete oso poio sxetikes plhrofories ginetai me
     to 8ema. Ena aplo "de mporw na synde8w sto internet me Redhat 6" de
     boh8a kanenan kai to apotelesma einai kai h apanthsh  na argei kai
     na stelnontai mhnumata toy tupoy "steile mas to tade" poy apla
     epibarunoyn th lista akoma perissotero.
   * Allazete to subject otan allazete to 8ema.
   * Mporeite otan sas apanthsoyn kai ly8ei to problhma sas, na gracete
     ena e-mail me thn pros8hkh toy "FIXED:" h kati paromoio sto 8ema,
     kai na perigracete me liga logia pws telika lusate to problhma sas.
     Me ayto ton tropo dhmioyrgeitai mia perilhch toy oloy thread kai
     boh8ate kapoion me paromoio problhma na brei th lush polu
     grhgorotera.

Genika, an eiste neos sth lista kai genika se listes taxydromeioy,
diabaste ta mhnumata poy stelnontai gia mia ebdomada peripoy gia na
katalabete ton tropo symperiforas se tetoioys xwroys.

1.4 Pws na apantw;

Se genikes grammes prospa8eite na eiste suntomoi, afou o xronos olwn mas
alla kai to bandwidth einai periorismena. Epishs, apofugete apanthseis
eristikes (kai genika tis "ejypnades") afou to e-mail einai teleiws
aproswpo kai eukola mporei na parejhgh8ei kai na odhghsei se flames.
Apantate  opws 8elete na sas apantoun. Apofugete kai anousia e-mail
(asxeta sxolia  klp). Protimotero, pantws, einai na mhn apantate an den
jerete/eisaste  sigoyroi.

An kapoios rwthse kati poy exei erwth8ei kai sto parel8on mhn toy
apanthsete (h steilte toy proswpiko). Den yparxei logos na gemizei h
lista me mhnumata toy tupoy "koita sta archives/magaz".

1.5 Kapoios moy apanthse ybristika/me e8ije/klp. Na toy apanthsw;

Oxi mesw ths listas. Gia tetoioy eidoys 8emata na stelnete proswpika
e-mail. Den endiaferei kanena sth lista oi proswpikes sas diafores me
kapoion.

1.6 Genikoi kanones kalhs symperiforas

   * Prosejte th glwssa poy xrhsimopoieite. H lista einai dia8esimh se
     polu kosmo kai de milate stoys filoys sas mono. H lista ayth
     apotelei kai enan tropo na deixnoyme thn eikona toy Linux ston
     ypoloipo kosmo.
   * Attachments: Genika einai kalo na mhn stelnete arxeia sth lista. An
     xreiazetai na steilete kapoio arxeio poy exei sxesh me to problhma
     sas prospa8hste na breite to pi8ano shmeio toy problhmatos kai na
     steilete mono ayto. To na stelnete olo to syslog den einai kalh
     taktikh!
   * Flames: Ta mhnumata sas na mhn einai eristika kai na mhn enoxloun.
     To e-mail einai aproswpo kai eukola parejhgeitai kati poy gracate.
     Epishs mhn arxizete polemoys gia to poia einai h kaluterh dianomh,
     window manager, klp. Opws lene "peri orejews oydhs logos".
     Apofugete syzhthseis gia alla leitoyrgika. Mhn sxoliazete to ti
     la8os eipw8hke sto tade periodiko h to ti asxhmo eipe o deina
     ar8rografos gia to linux. O,ti parapona kai apoceis exete mporeite
     na tis steilete stoys ypaitioys.
   * Quotes: Otan kanete reply se kapoio e-mail kocte oso poio polla
     mporeite apo to arxiko munhma. Kocte to footer poy pros8etei o
     mail-server sto telos ka8e mhnumatos. Afhste mono ta sxetika me thn
     apanthsh sas gia na katalaboyn oi ypoloipoi se ti apantate.
     O,tidhpote allo xaramizei bandwidth kai xrono.
   * Signatures: Genika einai kalo na periorisete to signature sta
     e-mail sas se 4-5 seires to polu.
   * Aggelies: Kalo einai na apofeugete na stelnete aggelies gia
     prosfora ergasias. Xrhsimopoihste to http://ads.hellug.gr kalutera.
   * Spam: Se kamia periptwsh de 8a prepei na steilete spam mail sth
     lista. Asxeta diafhmistika, mhnumata-alysides, klp apagoreuontai.
     Opoios steilei tetoia mhnumata 8a diagrafetai apo th lista kai 8a
     ginetai ban apo to domain toy Hellug.

1.7 Arxeia ths listas 

H lista Linux-Greek-Users einai dhmosia kai anoixth lista syzhthsewn.
H diagrafh mhnymatwn apo ta arxeia ths dhmosias listas den einai mia 
synh8ismenh diadikasia kai ws ek toutou den prosferetai ws dynatothta
se osous exoun symmetasxei stis syzhthseis tis.

1.8 Apopoihsh dikaiwmatos kai ey8ynwn (DISCLAIMER)

Ta mhnymata ths listas ekfrazoun proswpikes apopseis tou ekastote apostolea
kai oxi tou syllogou Hellug. H Enwsh Xrhstwn kai Filwn Linux Ellados den 
ferei kamia ey8ynh gia to periexomeno tous.


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