Koyponia Suse apo th microsoft?

Nick Demou ndemou at gmail.com
Mon Nov 6 15:09:58 EET 2006


Την 3/11/2006, Christos Ricudis <ricudis at komodino.itc.auth.gr> έγραψε:
> Spiros Bolis wrote:
> > http://www.infoworld.com/article/06/11/02/HNmsnovelllinux_1.html?source=rss&url=http://www.infoworld.com/article/06/11/02/HNmsnovelllinux_1.html
> >
> > Microsoft will offer sales support for Suse Linux and also co-develop
> > technologies with Novell to make it easier for users to run both Suse
> > Linux and Microsoft Windows on their computers. Microsoft plans to
> > distribute 70,000 coupons for SUSE Linux Enterprise Server maintenance
> > and support to customers that want to run both Windows and Linux in
> > their environments.
> >
> >
> > WTF?????
> >
>
> Ti "WTF" ?
>
> WTF lene mono oi synais8hmatikoi linuxades, poy tous fainetai poly
> periergo pou h "kakh" microsoft kanei mia epixeirhmatikh kinhsh poy
> perilambanei to "kalo" linux h thn "kalh" PHP.
>
> H alh8eia einai poly poly pio aplh. Synh8ws tetoies apofaseis pairnontai
> kapws ws ekshs :
>
> Microsoft Executive A : "Mporoume na bgaloume lefta apo ayto?"
> Microsoft Executive B : "Nai"
> Microsoft Executive A : "Arketa lefta me ligh prospa8eia?"
> Microsoft Executive B : "Mallon nai"
> Microsoft Executive A : "Tote as to kanoume".
>
το ότι ή MS σύμφωνα και με της μαρτηρίες τρίτων και με τις δικές της
και με την κοινή λογική, έχει έναν και μόνο σοβαρό εχθρό στα server OS
και έναν μόνο εμφανή πιθανό εχθρό στα desktop OS δεν είναι καθόλου
συναισθηματικό. Είναι πραγματικότητα. Οπότε το WTF δικαιολογείτε
απόλυτα. WTF σημαίνει απλά: "Μα για ποιο λόγο να βοηθήσεις τον
ανταγωνιστή σου"? WTF έχουν πει με το δικό του τρόπο αρκετός κόσμος
από την πρώτη μέρα. Να δυο παραδείγματα:

Stephen J. Vaughan-Nichols on Desktop Linux, "Hell freezes over:
Microsoft, Novell partner on Linux"
Dana Gardner's on ZDNET: "Microsoft and Novell: Fox marries chicken,
both move into henhouse."

WTF σημαίνει επίσης "ΟΚ σίγουρα κάτι μας κρύβει η MS που δεν φένεται
με την πρώτη ανάγνωση αλλά τι?". Κατ'εμέ η καλύτερη σύνοψη του τι
κρύβετε, γίνεται από την Pamela Jones του Groklaw επειδή ακριβώς το
θέμα δεν είναι τεχνικό αλλά θέμα πολιτικής και νόμοθεσίας. Παραθέτω
απόσπασμα παρακάτω. Για όσους όμως βαριουνται ορίστε πολύ χοντρα και
σε μια πρόταση το ρεζουμε "η MS βάζει γερά θεμέλια για να επιτεθεί στο
linux με βάση την νομοθεσία περί πατεντών λογισμικού και η Novel την
βοηθάει".

Now, on all those stories about Microsoft falling in love with Linux,
because it has to, Mary Jo Foley says this is bunk. It's Microsoft
being Microsoft. It isn't waving any white flags:

    """There is no hell freezing over, no snowballs melting and
definitely no white flags fluttering over the Microsoft headquarters
building. Microsoft is not conceding that desktop Linux is gaining
ground. It's not admitting that its closed-source strategy has failed.

    Sure, Microsoft is [listen]ing to customers' requests for better
interoperability. But if you think the Redmondians are throwing in the
towel, vis-a-vis open source, you are underestimating severely
Microsoft's well-proven ability to come out ahead on any partnership
to which it commits....I'd agree with Tim Patterson, one of the
commentors on my site, that Novell CEO "Hovespian fell into the
trap.""""

I'd say she got that part right. Patterson:

    """Mary Jo is correct. It's all about the patent agreement. After
the Q&A segment it was clear that the patent agreement was a defacto
acknowledgement by Novell that Linux violates MS patents. Ballmer made
it clear that the patent agreement protects ONLY users of SuSE Linux.
When questioned about whether the patent agreement covered technology
which will be developed or if it covers MS patents already existing in
Linux the attorney made it clear that the agreement protects existing
Linux in the form of SuSE.

    So MS has found the big Linux vendor foolish enough to
"legitimize" a patent claim on Linux by Microsoft. This makes it
easier for MS to claim that Linux infringes their "IP" and claim that
Novell recognized this "fact" and struck a deal.

    Now it's only a matter of asserting claims against all
distributors except Novell thereby thinning the herd and finally, deal
with Novell SuSE last. """

http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20061102175508403&mode=print
http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20061103073628401&mode=print




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