synentey3h Theo de Raadt

[m.saturno at nectarine.it]

Scrive Antonios Anastasiadis <antonakis at gmail.com>:

> On 6/21/05, Mario Saturno <m.saturno at nectarine.it> wrote:
> >
> > Ç åãþ êáôÜëáâá ëÜèïò ç åóý. Ï Æïýëáò
> > áíáöÝñèçêå óôçí ðïëéôéêÞ
> > áíôéìåôþðéóåéò ôïõ De Raadt óå üôé áöïñÜ
> > ôçí Ýêäïóç ôùí drivers óå OpenBSD. Ðñïôéìþ ç
> > pcmcia ìïõ íá ëåéôïõñãåß êé áò ìçí åßíáé
> > *êáëïãñáìÝíïò* ï êþäéêáò áðü ôï íá ìçí
> > ëåéôïõñãåß êáèüëïõ, áëëÜ áõôü åßíáé
> > êáèáñÜ èÝìá åðéëïãþí.
>
> áíáöåñüìïõí ãåíéêÜ óôçí "åðéèåôéêÞ" óôÜóç ôïõ theo ðïõ ÷áëÜåé ôïí
> êüóìï, äÝí èõìüìïõí áðü ôçí óõíÝíôåõîç ðïý áíáöåñüôáí áêñéâþò ï
> zoulas. ¼ðùò åßðåò åßíáé èÝìá åðéëïãÞò...
>
> > ¼óï ãéá ôï éóôïñéêü áóöáëåßáò, ôï NetBSD
> > Ý÷åé ôá ìéóÜ bugs áðü áõôÜ ôïõ OpenBSD ôçí
> > ôåëåõôáßá 5åôßá ÷ùñßò çëßèéá banners ôïõ
> > óôõë 1 remote hole in the default installation in 8 years.
>
> Ý÷åéò äßêéï üóïí áöïñÜ ôá bugs.Ïé ôýðïé ôïõ open üìùò öôéÜîáíå ôï
> pf,öôéÜîáíå ôï openbgpd,îáíá-öôéÜ÷íïõí ôï cvs,ospfd êëð. ÖñÝóêï ðñÜìá
> ÷ùñßò bugs ãßíåôáé?
> ¼óïí áöïñÜ ôï security, åöüóïí áõôü ðïõ ëÝåé ôï banner áëçèåýåé,
> ãéáôß
> íá ìÞí ôï ðáéíåõôïýíå.

Äåí ãßíåôáé öñÝóêï ðñÜãìá ÷ùñßò bugs áëëÜ ôá features ðïõ Ý÷ïõíå êÜíåé
port áðü ôï NetBSD äåí åßíáé ëßãá. ºóùò åßíáé ôá ðéï óõìáíôéêÜ. ÎÝ÷áóåò
íá áíáöÝñåéò ôï openssh :-). Ôï íá ðáéíåýåóå ãéá êÜôé ôüóï áöåëÝò üóï ôï
default installation äÝé÷íåé imho ðüóï ìùñüò åßóáé åóý êé üóïé óå
÷ñçóéìïðïéïýíå.

> > Áðëþò ãéáôß áõôïß ðïõ áó÷ïëïýíôáé ìå
> > ôï NetBSD åßíáé ðéï óïâáñïß, öÜíçêå
> > îåêÜèáñá êé áðü ôá replys Üëëùóôå.
>
> ï deraadt åßíáé ëßãï "ìùñüò" åßðáìå, áëëÜ äÝí óçìáßíåé áõôü ïôé üóïé
> áó÷ïëïýíôáé ìå ôï net åßíáé ðéï "óïâáñïß".

¼÷é Üôïìá óáí ôïí Äçìçôñßïõ êáé ôï Æïýëá åßíáé áâëåðÞ ðéï óïâáñÜ êé
áöïóéïìÝíá óôçí åñãáóßá ôïõò áðü ôïí De Raadt ðïõ ëüãï áíïçóßáò åßíáé
åíôåëþò áíåëáóôéêüò.

> > ¸íá Linux
> > ìå security patches åßíáé ôüóï áóöáëÝò üóï Ýíá
> > openbsd äåí íïìßæù üôé õðÜñ÷ïõí
> > óõìáíôéêÝò äéáöïñÝò..
>
> åäþ ðñïöáíþò èá äéáöùíÞóù.Ýëåïò

Óå ðåéñÜæåé íá ìáò åêèÝóåéò ôéò áðüøåéò óïõ ðåñß áõôïý?

>
> >üóï ãéá ôï default
> > installation áí ìéëÜåé êÜðéïò ãéá áóöÜëåéá
> > êáé áöÞíåé Ýíá óýóôçìá ìå ôï default setup
> > åßíáé Üîéïò ôçò ìïßñáò ôïõ, åßôå Ý÷åé
> > OpenBSD åßôå WindowsXP.
>
> êáé ðÜëé èá äéáöùíÞóù ìå ôçí óýãêñéóç...ðñïöáíþò
>
> ôÝëïò ðÜíôùí ï êáèÝíáò ãïýóôï ôïõ êáðÝëï ôïõ :)

ïê, ðåò ïôé Ý÷ïõìå WindosXP ìå firefox default browser :PpP


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