ADSL

Fri Jan 14 11:23:30 EET 2005

On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 09:58:07AM +0200, ?as??e??? Sp???? wrote:
> >
> > Epeidi skeftomai na valw dsl sintoma, exw tin eksis aporia.
> 
> Kalos ton. Oti thes na sou apanthsoume
> 
> >
> > Mexri stigmis exw ksexwrisei tin tellas (paketo izi) kai tin (ftou kaka)
> > otenet (paketo conne-x).
> >

Ayto einai paketo toy OTE. H Otenet vazei to ISP kommati. 

> 
> To paketo Forthnet ADSL-in-a-Box einai pio oikonomiko dioti sta 149+FPA
> perilambanei kai 3 mhnes ta pagia tou OTE dhladh den plhroneis sto
> logoriasmo
> tou OTE ta 3x19,90!

19,90 aney FPA dil 23,5

> Ego pantos den tha epairna kanena paketo!
> 

Ego evala DSL prosfata kai episis den pira kanena paketo. Evala ti
grammi apo ton OTE kai sti synexeia antimetopisa ksexorista to ISP
kommati. Mporeis na pas se opoion ISP epithymeis (ego eimai Otenet gia
profaneis logous)

> > H aporia pou einai ean kathe mia apo tis proanafer8ises etairies
> > sto modem
> > pou dinei perilamvanei modem me oxi usb sindesi.
> 
> Me APOLYTI sigouria ola ta modems ton Conn-X, ADSL-in-a-BOX, Tellas-IZI
> einai OLA USB!!! kanena den exei ethernet, afou ta sketa USB einai
> fthinotera apo
> ayta me ethernet (ta opoia einai kai mini routers)
>

Xairomai pou i sigouria einai APOLYTH. H alitheia einai omos oti ta
DSL modems/routers pou proteinei o OTE einai kyrios ta Intracom
Jetspeed 520 i Alcatel 530. Ayta exoun ethernet interface. Episis na
doso emfasi sto gegonos oti ayta pou exoun eth interface einai
routerakia. Exoun ensomatomeno to ADSL modem kai kanoun polla epipleon
pragmata opos DHCP, DNS, firewalling, NAT klp.

> Afyto pou me noiazei
> > einai na min valw ston kernel usb ipostiriksi giati
> >
> > 1) To usb tha xrisimopoieitai mono gia'fton ton skopo, opote
> > giati na iparxoun
> > extra feautres afou mporei na ginei kai alliws?
> >
> Oxi aparaithta! Mallon se kamia periptosh. Extra features exeis se enan
> router
> kai oxi se ena sketo modem USB.
> 
> 
> > kai
> >
> > 2) Monizw oti to dsl modem tha sindethei panw sto netmod to opoio pairnei
> > apo tin ethernet (oxi usb tespa) thira.
> >
> 
> H diasyndesh einai h eksis.
> 1) apo ton toixo sou (pou einai h grammh tou OTE) feygei ena kalodia kai
> paei sto splitter (ena koytaki pou dinei dyo alles grammes)
> 2) apo to splitter apo thn eksodo pou leei phone syndeetai to NETMOD kai
> ekei ola ta gnosta meta to NETMOD gia foni
> 3) apo to splitter apo thn eksodo pou leei line syndeetai to DSL
> modem/router kai ayto sto PC meso USB/Ethernet
> 

H diasyndesi edo perigrafetai sosta gia to ISDN kommati. Gia PSTN pou
nomizo oti tha symferei/endiaferei kai ton perissotero kosmo mporeis
na xrisimopoiiseis filtra se kathe priza pou yparxei tilefono. O
router/modem mporei na mpei apeytheias se mia diathesimi priza. 

> Aplo den einai? To netmod den exei thyra ethernet alla S0 ISDN BUS!
> 
> > Kai akoma mia aporia:
> >
> > To customer-service tis tellas einai "kapws" i mou fenetai?
> >
> 
> Poio customer-service? Ma kala bre paidia den kserete oti h Tellas einai
> enosi apo
> ELTA-DEH-Germanos (to teleytaio den eimai sigouros) dhladh nootropia
> Dhmosiou?
> Ego tous theoro karagkiozides (prosopikh einai h apopsi mhn arxisoume flame)
> 
> > Piga na rwtisw to parapanw stin tellas kai i ipallilos ekei mou eipe:
> > "den to kserw. Isws to leei sto enimerwtiko filadio (20 selides A4
> > fototipimenes) to opoio den mporw na sto vgalw fototipia amesws
> > twra giati
> > einai diko mou. Ama thes na sto vgalw fototipia na ksanaperaseis se ligo."
> >
> > diladi to customer-service den ipostirizei tous ipopsifious pelates!!!!!!!
> 
> Ama thes Customer Service pare sto  801 100 8000 h 211 100 8000
> ths Forthnet kai rota osa les na deis apanthseis h pes oti thes to tmhma
> polhseon.
> 
> Pantos gia oikonomikh lysh proteino to eksis pou leo kai se pelates mou
> 
> 1) aithsh ston OTE gia ADSL  kai energopoihsh grammhs oxi episkepsi texnikou
> .... 35 EURO (kai xreose ta sto logariasmo)
> 2) agora enos fthnou modem apo OTE me dorean splitter, sinithos to Intracom
> 520 (einai USB/ethernet) proteino kai einai sigouro oti
>    tha doulepsei dioti o OTE kserei tis blakeis tou... 60-70 euro (auto se 6
> doseis se logariasmous OTE)

Edo mporeis na pareis kai to ALCATEL speedtouch 530. Ayto pira kai
ego. Idia timi.

> 3) syndesh sto spiti tou eksoplismou me basikes odhgies pou tis exei mesa
> kai rythish tou modem se Bridging RFC-1483 pou
>     shmainei oti to PC sou exei elegxo ths syndeshs oxi to modem

Edo ego vazo to routeraki na kanei to ppp (PPPoATM). Syndesi me 2-3
klik sto Gui tou router.

> 4) agora mia kartas Forthnet-1mhnas me 20 Euro pou dinei prosbash ADSL gia
> enan oloklhro mhna (oxi omos e-mail)
> 

Xmm. Oste i Forthnet exei vgalei pre-paid DSL? Apla tha prepei na
agorazeis karta kathe mina. Ego tha pigaina se kati aoristou.

> Synoliko kostos ana mhna 39.90 kai synexis prosbash kai oxi ogkometrisi opos
> sthn Tellas.
> 
> Filika
> Spiros
> 

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