ÅñùôÞìáôá ãéá ôéò ðáôÝíôåò êáé ôçí GPL

[ricudis at komodino.itc.auth.gr]

Quoting fs <admin at www0.org>:

> Exw parathrhsei exei ginei moda o agwnas kata thw patentas, par'ola
> ayta, moy exoyn dhmioyrghthei kapoia ervthmata gia ta opoia 8a htan
> endiaferon na akoyso thn apopsh twn xrhstwn ths listas gia ayta mias
> kai oi xrhstes tha exoyn sigoyra diabasei kai skeftei kapoia pragmata
> pano sto 8ema.
>
> a. An h patenta afairei to dikaioma apo kapoia monopoliakh etairia
> na kyriarxisei panw sthn idea poy h patenta perigrafei, pws ayto
> kanei thn patenta ws yparksh genika arnhtikh sthn sigkekrimenh
> periptosh;

IANAL. However :

H patenta dinei to dikaiwma ston katoxo ths na ekmetalleyetai
kat'apokleistikothta to perigrafomeno sthn patenta KATI gia ena "periorismeno"
xroniko diasthma, poy nomizw oti einai gyrw sta 75 xronia (mporei na kanw kai
la8os edw). Ystera h patenta ginetai public domain.

To olo problhma brisketai sto KATI.

Ypoti8etai oti h patenta prepei na einai arketa sygkekrimenh wste na epitrepei
thn anaparagwgh apo tritous ths perigrafomenhs efeyreshs meta th lhksh ths.
Sthn praksh spaniws symbainei ayto, an eisai arketa magkas dikhgoros mporeis na
kaneis mia perigrafh pou einai arketa asafhs wste 1) na kalyptei esena, 2) na
xrhsimeyei san ergaleio gia na patas kate tous ypoloipous, 3) na einai pantelws
axrhsth meta th lhksh ths.

Twra. Arxika oi patentes efarmozotan mono sthn perigrafh kataskeyastikwn me8odwn
kai efeyresewn (to "you cannot patent an idea"). Dhladh, de mporeis na
katoxyrwseis patenta gia tous "tyxaious ari8mous apo to 1 mexri to 6", wstoso
mporeis na katoxyrwseis mia patenta gia thn "me8odo kataskeyhs kybikou sxhmatos
syskeyhs xeirokinhths epiloghs ari8mwn periorismenou eyrous". To 8ema einai oti
sthn periptwsh tou software, phgaine ksexwrise mia *idea* apo to
*implementation* ths me tetoio tropo wste to implementation na kalyptetai apo
thn patenta alla h idea oxi. Paraeinai sygkexymena ta pragmata. Mia "me8odos
eyreshs elaxistou monopatiou diadromhs se grafo me 8etika barh" kalyptei to
implementation toy Dijksta, h thn algori8mikh lysh tou problhmatos?

> b. Opws akribws kai me th GPL, ksero pws yparxoyn para poloi xrhstes
> linux kai genikotera GPL programmatwn oi opoioi exoyn ws epaggelma
> ton programmatismo h' toylaxiston ws meriko epaggelma. De mporei
> na isxiristei kapoios poy exei estw kapoia mikrh epafh me thn
> pragmatikothta oti kaneis ap'aytoys toys xrhstes den h' toylaxiston
> den 8elei na xrhsimopoiei kleistes adeies otan prepei na bgalei
> xrhmata. Yparxei periptwsh o agwnas kata ths patentas na ksefygei
> apo to gegonos oti kapoioi poy einai hdh fainomenika yposthriktes toy,
> telika 8a tis xrisimopoiisoyn gia ton prohgoymeno logo;

eeee?

> c. Ayto einai genikoterh idea peri GPL, free licences kai genikotera
> agona gia to free as in freedom. Se ena periballon opoy kyriarxei h
> kapitalismos. Pio genika, se ena periballon poy kyriarxoyn isxyroi
> oikonomikoi desmoi metaksi laoy, etairiwn kai kybernwntwn. Pio
> genika, se ena periballon opoy antallasontai aga8a. Akoma pio
> genika, se ena periballon opoy ta aga8a 8eoroyntai panta
> idioktisia kapoioy, pws einai dynaton idees opoy proo8oyn thn riksh ths
> idioktisias kai mono thn yparksh ths eley8erhs dianomhs, na eydokimisoyn;
> Profanws den einai adynaton, alla mallon proypo8esh einai h yparksh kai
> h idia h eformogh ths genikoterhs ideas peri elipshs idioktisias stis
> upolipes leitoyrgies ths koinonias. Den exw spoydasei koinwniologia alla
> exw thn entypwsh pws panta mporeis na exeis thn mikrh omada poy
> diaxirizetai etsi ta paragomena ths, kai profanws ayto isxiei mesa sthn
> mikrh sxetika me ton ypoloipo pli8ismo koinwnita toy free software opws kai
> se mia mikrh omada kalwn sxesewn opws mia sinithismenh oikogeneia. Alla o
> agwnas an8rwpwn pros ayth thn kateythnsh mallon prepei na einai
> siniditopoiimenos. Kai ti ennow.. prospa8ontas na polemiseis ta patents kai
> prospa8ontas na epibaleis thn GPL kai genikotera tis idees toy gnu project
> se ka8e ptixh ths koinwnias opoy ayta eformozontai (sthn prokeimenh
> sto software), tote prepei na exeis sinidish toy gegonotos oti panta
> 8a apotigxaneis dioti h ypoliph koinwnia den leitoyrgei etsi. As mh to
> analusw perissotero, alla synoptika, h xrhsh software anamenetai apo tis
> kybernhseis na dosei foroys, apo toys dianomeis na dosei polhseis stoys
> lianopolites, apo ta xrimatisthria na dosei metoxes. Oi koinwnia opws
> leitoyrgei twra, perimenei apo ka8e proion poy perneis sta xeria soy na
> bgei.. profit.

Diabase Proudhon. Apantaei se ola ta parapanw.



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