Na balw Debian?

[Aggelos Economopoulos]

On Wednesday 05 November 2003 14:17, Manolis Stamatogiannakis wrote:
> Giannis Vrentzos wrote:
> > Twra h eykolia eggatastashs den einai apo ta pleonekthmata tou debian.
> > Gia eykolia xeirismou 8a sou pei kapoios pou doulevei debian.
>
> Mega psema :)
> To knoppix, pou einai ousiastika debian-desktop distribution, einai
> paneukolo sthn egkatastash kai 8ewreitai pws exei kai thn kalyterh
> anagnwrish
> syskeuwn.
>
> Proswpika protimw gentoo apo o,ti allo exw dei, omws to gentoo xreiazetai
> kai mia adsl apo pisw gia na travaei ta source updates ta opoia einai
> pio ogkwdh
> apo ta binaries twn ypoloipwn dianomwn.

Krinontas apo to oti h 64K sundesh mou krataei sxetika up to date to freebsd 
-current kai to gentoo mou (ta tarballs exoun to kalo oti sunh8ws einai 
platform-agnostic kai ara usable kai sta duo leitourgika), an exeis adsl mono 
gia na travas ta sources gia to gentoo, o ote mallon se klebei 8)

> Kata ta alla to gentoo exei
> panta o,ti
> teleutaio kykloforei kai ta builds tou einai pio a3iopista apo ta
> testing kai unstable
> binaries tou debian.

Mia pou prin to gentoo eixa debian sto opoio ekana binary upgrades kai se ~1.5 
xrono den petuxa polu perissotera problhmata[0] apo oti stis 10 meres pou exw 
to gentoo, den mporw para na upo8esw oti eite milas ston aera, eite 
genikeueis adikaiologhta.

> Epipleon to gentoo den kanei politikh me ta builds
> tou, opote a vreis pragmata opws ton xv image viewer, windows codecs, decss
> ktl amesa dia8esima.

Mostly true. Apo th allh pleura exw thn entupwsh oti patcharei ta sources me 
non-bugfix ahdies (nai, den me noiazei akoma kai an auto ginetai apo 
maintainer twn upstream sources opws sthn periptwsh tou grub), alla don't 
quote me on this, den exw dwsei kai megalh shmasia sto build process. As 
paroume to klasiko peiramatozwo twn dianomwn, to util-linux:

aggelos at erwin:~> ls /mnt/debian/usr/portage/sys-apps/util-linux/files/ | wc -l
      17
aggelos at erwin:~> 

kai, oxi, auta den einai patches apo ton aeb.

> An den exeis adsl pantws, h kalyterh lysh pou exw vrei, einai to
> knoppix. Sthn prwth
> egkatastash ftiaxmeis 1 partition gia to /, ena gia /home kai ena swap.
> Epeita gia
> ka8e nea ekdosh tou, kratas backup to /etc/passwd kai to /etc/fstab kai
> 3anaegka8istas
> th nea ekdosh panw apo thn palia. Ta kaneis epeita restore kai eisai
> etoimos :)

An eixes dokimasei na doulepseis se susthma to opoio 8a ekanes update me thn 
parapanw diadikasia, amfibalw an to susthma 8a htan arketa functional wste na 
mporeis na steileis tetoia mail. To freebsd kanei overwrite (kinda) to basiko 
installation se ka8e installworld kai ka8e 3-6 mhnes kati spaei kai 
xreiazetai manual intervention. Me alla logia, auto pou proteineis 
parousiazei problhmata otan einai h recommended me8odos gia update (kai 
malista apaitei specialized merging procedure gia to /etc), eisai sigouros 
oti 8a doulepsei se ena distribution sto opoio to na kaneis overwrite *olh* 
th userland (oxi mono to base system opws sta bsd) den einai kan supported 
(toulaxiston den htan thn teleutaia fora pou eixa koita3ei to knoppix)?

(An douleuei pantws, plz let me know :)

Aggelos

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