Mas endiaferei.

[Aggelos Economopoulos]

On Friday 11 April 2003 16:32, V13 wrote:
> On Friday 11 April 2003 15:30, Al. Andreou wrote:
> > Egv ayth th stigmh doyleyv se xvro teleivs asxeto me tis spoydes moy
> > (mhxanikos hlektronikvn, 'h toylaxiston aytos ua einai o titlos moy
> > molis[1] teleivsv ths sxolh).
> >
> > Oi gnvseis moy se diaforoys tomeis den katvxyronontai me tipote allo para
> > me ta mhxanhmata poy exv sthsei 'h me ta programmata poy exv ftiajei.
> > Mporei na exv ptyxio poy leei apofoitos toy ece.ntua.gr kai na phgainv
> > gia M.Sc. kai na mhn jerv na programmatizv (to paradeigma *den* einai
> > tyxaio).
>
> a) Ksexnas ta typika prosonta.
> b) Opos eipe kai kapoios allos, an to problima soy einai me tin poiotita
> ton apofoiton, tote epikentrosoy ekei (diladi zitas na einai poio aystira
> ta pragmata stin apoktisi ptyxioy).

@@. oso austhrh kai na einai h apokthsh ptuxiou, to mono pou epibebaiwnei 
einai oti, me austhra krithria, ema8es pragmata pou den einai arketa 
(xrhsima?) se pragmatikes sun8hkes ergasias.

> To oti esy asxolithikes monos soy kai
> emathes 5-10-100-1000-1M-1G pragmata den simainei oti to kanoyn oloi.

den milame gia ta 1G pragmata pou ma8aineis epeidh ta xreiazesai se kati 
arketa e3eidikeumeno e3eidikeumeno. milame gia apolutws stoixeiwdh pragmata 
ta opoia 8a htan mia kalh idea na sta bazei sto kefali to "anwtato 
ekpaideutiko idruma" kai oxi o, aganaktismenos apo thn agnoia sou, (ekastote 
sunergaths sou | typos pou xanei to xrono tou gia na se boh8hsei se kapoia 
mailing list).

(to upoxrewtiko anekdoto, apo to ece at ntua):

eisagwgh stis thlepikoinwnies, 1h paradosh. o ka8hghths 8elontas na dei3ei to 
mege8os ths agnoias twn foithtwn tou, plhsiazei ton pinaka kai 3ekina na 
perigrafei mia upo8etikh peristash sthn opoia mporei na bre8ei o hlektrologos 
mhxanikos. "Estw loipon oti gia mia kataskeuh xreiazeste, sumfwna me tous 
upologismous sas, enan puknwth 500F...". Akolou8ei paush, sthn opoia 
akougontai gelia apo ena allo paidi kai emena. Oi upoloipoi (~200) foithtes 
sto amfi8eatro, kremontai apo ta xeilh tou, o ka8enas etoimos na ton 
kataplh3ei me thn grhgorh apanthsh tou, otan teleiwsei thn ekfwnhsh.
[to khrugma tou ka8hghth paraleipetai]

(nai, ok, den einai paradeigma apo IT alla metaferei to idio mhnuma)

> Yparxoyn PARA polloi mathimatikoi oi opoioi den kseroyn *TIPOTA* apo
> pliroforiki kai agonizontai gia na mporoyn na katalaboyn theseis opoy ta
> *typika prosonta* apaitoyn ptyxio pliroforikis.
>
> > Uevrv vs dedomeno pvs aytos poy ua ergastei vs 'plhroforikarios' ua jerei
> > ti einai to seiriako kalvdio. Den yperbalv, to sygkekrimeno atomo *den*
> > hjere ti einai to seiriako kalvdio. Kai den einai monadikos.
>
> Ego theoro dedomeno na kserei ti einai to Bubble Sort,

egw pali oxi. 8a mou arkouse na mporw na 8ewrw dedomeno oti 3erei *giati* 8a 
ton parei o dialolos an dw bubble sort ston kwdika tou.
fusika, opoisdhpote exei mia mikrh epafh me thn pragmatikothta 8ewrei dedomeno 
to akribws anti8eto.

[snip]

> Ilithiotita != ( Anikanotita na kaneis kati || Mh gnosi )

Hli8iothta == anikanothta na kaneis kati gia thn elleipsh gnwsewn pou se 
diakrinei.