Mas endiaferei.

[George Daflidis-Kotsis]

On Fri, Apr 11, 2003 at 04:13:18PM +0300, V13 wrote:

> On Friday 11 April 2003 11:53, George Daflidis-Kotsis wrote:
> > On Fri, Apr 11, 2003 at 01:45:56AM +0300, V13 wrote:
> > > On Thursday 10 April 2003 23:05, Al. Andreou wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 10 Apr 2003, V13 wrote:
> > > > >  Idi ginontai 'maxes' gia tin katoxyrosi ton dikaiomaton ton
> > > > > apofoiton pliroforikis me antipala stratopeda toys apofoitoys
> > > > > pliroforikis kai toys mathimatikoys, fysikoys klp klp..
> > > >
> > > > An eisai Sysadmin, eisai Sysadmin. Den exei sxesh an prohlues apo .cs,
> > > > .ee 'h .math subdomain. Aytos einai o ergasiakos soy xvros kai to
> > > > gnvstiko soy pedio, ekei ergazesai, ekei kalypteis tis ypoxrevseis soy.
> > > > Ara kai ekei diekdikeis ta dikaivmata soy.
> > >
> > > Poios milise gia sysadmins ? Oi syadmins einai ligoteroi apo to 0.05% ton
> > > atomon poy zitaei/exei to dimosio me ptyxio pliroforikis...
> >
> > To dhmosio twra pws mplexthke akribws? Autos pou douleuei p.x. sth FORTHNet
> > ws sysadmin (kai ton antimetwpizoun ws mauro[0]) de 8a mporei na
> > diekdikhsei ta dikaiwmata tou mesw kapoiou sundikalistikou organou?
> 
> O ricudis eixe pei arxika:
> 
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> Isws na mhn einai tyxaio poy oi ergazomenoi sto xwro ths plhroforikhs den
> exoun kammia mazikh syllogikh ekproswphsh. Nai, einai kati poy xreiazetai.
> Einai wrimes oi syn8hkes gia na ksekinhsei kati tetoio?
> =====
> 
> kai meta:
> 
> =====
> Posoi apo tous ergazomenoys ston xwro ths plhroforikhs einai apofoitoi 
> plhroforikhs? 
> =====
> 
> Xoros pliroforikis den einai mono to sysadminiliki. To dimosio itan ena 
> paradeigma mias kai ekei zitane polla atoma pliroforikis, opote theoro aytes 
> tis theseis san 'xoro plhroforikis'. Alloste h otenet den exei kai toso 
> megali diafora me to dimosio...

Den eipa pote pws xwros plhroforikhs einai mono to sysadminiliki alla de
mporw na 8ewrhsw antiproswpeutiko xwro plhroforikhs to dhmosio. Den exw
idia gnwsh alla eimai 90% sigouros pws to support kai to development
gia to dhmosio de ginetai apo to idio to dhmosio, ena mikro tmhma ginetai
apo auto alla ta upoloipa ginontai outsource se idiwtikes etairies.

> Des esy stin agglia posses theseis pliroforikis yparxoyn (texnikoi/support, 
> programmatistes, analytes) kai sygkrinetes se plithos me toys sysadmins..

Profanws kai den uparxei genikos kanonas. Ekei pou douleuw pantws, pou einai
to ISP section enos TELCO, oi sys admins einai polu perissoteroi apo tous
developers sto idio section.

Peripou 40 sys admins kai peripou 10-15 developers. Kai oxi, den 8ewroun tous
sys admins maurous eutuxws.

Filika.

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[george daflidis-kotsis - systems admin,web/e-commerce - gdk at demon.net]