linux (rh 7.3), ellhnika, evolution, kai giati ta windows allazoun layout toso kalytera? :-)

[Stefanos Zachariadis]

Kalhmera/kalhspera sas opou kai na eiste.

Exw ksanagrapsei s'ayth th lista gia ena provlhma pou exw me ta ellhnika
sto linux, pou dystyxws den mporesame na lysoume.

Gia allh mia fora tolmaw na zhthsw, parakalw, th vohtheia sas...

Kat'arxhn na sas pw ti prospathw na ftiaksw:

Symperifora windows! :-)

Apo ta windows 95 kai meta (mallon kai prin, den thymamai), mporousa na
allazw metaksy british kai greek keyboard layouts, na trexw olo to
desktop mou kai tis efarmoges se british english, alla me ena syndiasmo
plhktrwn na mporw na allazw layout (mono) kai na grafw ellhnika.

Ayth th symperifora prospathw (anepityxws) edw kai pollaaaa xronia na
kanw emulate kai sto linux. Einai dynaton ena leitourgiko pou mporeis na
to kaneis customize toso poly, na mhn mporei na kanei ayth thn
leitourgia? Gi'ayto loipon zhtw ta fwta sas...

Vasika, oles oi odhgeies pou exw dei, douleyoun, alla ypothetoun ta
parakatw:

a) O xrhsths tha trexei to desktop tou (gnome sthn periptwsh mou) sta
ellhnika
b) O xrhsths exei american layout keyboard.

Egw antitithemai kai sta parapanw, kai gia prosopikous logous
(aisthitikh/synhthia) kai logo douleias (douleyw sthn agglia).

Opote an trexw to gnome sta ellhnika, mporw na grafw ellhnika (me mia
ekseresei, vlepe parakatw).

Kanontas edit to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/rules/xfree86.lst , 
kai prosthetontas ena entry gb+el         Custom keyboard kai allazontas
to XF86Config-4 mou se:

        Option  "XkbRules"      "xfree86"
        Option  "XkbModel"      "pc105"
        Option "XkbLayout"  "gb+el"
        Option "XkbOptions" "grp:ctrl_shift_toggle"

Exw kataferei na grafw ellhnika an trexw to gnome mou sta ellhnika (pou
DEN thelw), me tis ekshs eksereseis:
a) Sta xemacs den aresoun oi tonoi (den m'afhnei na grafw accented
xarakthres)
b) To latex den mporei na kanei parse ellhnikous xarakthres
c) To evolution den _vlepei_ ellhnika, emfanizei tetragonakia anti gia
tous swstous xarakthres (gia na katalavete ti ennow, koitaxte to
screenshot evolution-EL.jpg pou einai attached). Ta settings tou
evolution einai se greek encoding, ta settings to gtkhtml einai se
ellhnika fonts klp. Par'ola ayta, apo ellhnika... Tipota. Kai an
prospathisw sto evolution na grapsw ellhnika, pali ayta ta...
tetragwnakia emfanizontai

En Treksw to desktop mou (me to XFree configutaration pou sas anefera
pio panw) sta british english (opws kai thelw), den mporw na grapsw
ellhnika (otan kanw switch keyboard kai paw na grapsw ellhnika, oi
xarakthres den emfanizontai). Ellhnika mporw na dw, ektos _pali_ apo to
evolution, pou mou parousiazei tetragonakia (koitakste to attached
screenshot evolution-GB.jpg)...

Sygnwmh gia to megethos  tou mynhmatos, alla pia den
kserw ti na kanw :-)

Den eimai newbie, xrhshmopoiw full-time to linux, alla opws katalavenete
exw papsei pia na grafw ellhnika, kati oxi kai toso kalo... Den kserw
pola apo i18n omws..

Mporw loipon na grafw ellhnika se british (oxi american) desktop me
british/greek layout kai na diavazw ellhnika sto evolution (kai se ola
ta alla applications?)? Einai toso dyskolo? H mhpws prepei na perimenw gia to gnome2/gtk+2 kai pango? :-)


Eyxaristw poly gia to xrono sas,
Stefanos

PS: parakalw se opoion tyxon apadhsei na xrhshmopoihsei greeklish, kathos ta ellhnika den aresoun sto evolution...
PS2: Trexw ximian gnome (latest version) & evolution 1.0.8
PS3: Ta screenshots einai online http://www.cs.ucl.ac.uk/staff/s.zachariadis/evolution-EL.jpg kai http://www.cs.ucl.ac.uk/staff/s.zachariadis/evolution-GB.jpg
-- 
Stefanos Zachariadis
Dept. of Computer Science, University College London
Gower Street, London, WC1E 6BT, United Kingdom 
WWW: http://www.cs.ucl.ac.uk/staff/s.zachariadis
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