eipa kai ego!!

[Nikolaos Dionysopoulos]

nikos albanopoulos wrote:

> eipa kai ego, tha einai toso efkolo!!
>
> prospathisa na akolouthiso vima vima tis odigies gia na egkatastiso ta 
> ellinika graphis sto mandrake 8.2. Sti syneheia tha eksigiso ti ekana 
> (dystyhos me greeklish, afou den petyha kati) me tin elpida oti 
> kapoios filos tha ehei ypomoni na diavasei olo to minima mou kai na 
> apantisi. Sas parakalo lavete ypopsi sas oti eimai poly neos sto 
> linux. Me tin efkairia na efharistiso tous dyo filous pou apantisan 
> amesos sto proigoumeno mail mou "two questions".
>
> Kai tora ti ekana:
> VIMA 1o
> a) Symfona me tin paragrafo "1.1 Graphis", katevasa ta 5 rpm arheia 
> kai ta egatestisa me epitihia, arhizontas apo to proto kai ftanontas 
> os to pempto. I egkatastasi egine automatically, patontas to install, 
> den gnorizo an eho ti glosa perl, alla fantazomai oti nai, afou i 
> diadikasia oloklirothike kai gia kathe ena apo ta pente rpm eperna 
> minima succesful klp. Ekana mono afto apo tin paragrafo 1.1 kai tipota 
> allo, opos episis den ekana tipota apo tis paragrafous "1.2 
> egkatastasi true type" kai "1.3 anti aliasing" giati den katalava na 
> yparhei efarmogi stin periptosi mou.

To Mandrake 8.2 emfanizei mia idiaitera "ratsistikh" symperifora stis 
grammatoseires tis Graphis. Xwris na kaneis "tarzanies" (dhl. na 
arxiseis na peirazeis arxeia ry8misewn mpas kai katafereis tipota) to 
oply-poly na tis xrhsimopoihseis se KDE xwris anti-aliasing. Me to 
anti-aliasing energopoihmeno emena pantws mia fora den epaiksan. 
Kalytera 8a einai na katebaseis ta true type fonts tou FreeFont h ths 
Micro$oft kai na ta egkatasthseis me to drakfont ths Mandrake (apo to 
Control Center dhladh). Eniote to drakfont g...tai kai den anagnwrizei 
swsta oti ta fonts exoun ellhnika kai pali 8a blepeis koutakia. Se 
tetoia periptwsh steile mou mail na sou pw ti na kaneis.

>
> VIMA 2o
> Apo tin paragrafo "2 energopoiisi ton locals" den ekana tipota apo ta 
> eisagogika giati den vrika to arheio .bash_login sto home directory 
> parolo pou ekana search. Mipos edo einai to lathos?
> Sti syneheia apo tin paragrafo "2.2 gia to Mandrake" vrika efkola to 
> arheio etc/sysconfig/i18n kai to ekana akrivos opos lene oi odigies. 
> To antigrafo parakato gia na eimaste vevaioi.
>
> SYSFONT=iso07.f16
> LC_CTYPE=el
> LC_MONETARY=el
> LANGUAGE=el
> LC_TIME=el
> LC_NUMERIC=el
> LC_COLLATE=el
> LC_MESSAGES=el
> LANG=el
> UNIMAP=iso07
> SYSFONTACM=trivial.trans

Sto Mandrake, ta LC_otidhpote prepei na ta exeis el_GR kai oxi el sketo! 
Nai einai poly moufa alla molis to baleis el_GR 8a arxiseis na exeis 
pi8anothtes na paiksoun ta ellhnika.

>
> VIMA 3o
> Sti syneheia pame stin paragrafo "3. Rythmisi ton X-Windows". Ypethesa 
> oti prepei na akolouthiso to pio neo X, afou ta mandrake 8.2 einai 
> kainourgia. Akolouthisa loipon tis odigies tis paragrafou "3.1 Gia 
> X4.1.0" pou einai ligo berdemenes gia enan arhareio, gia ton eksis 
> logo. Stin arhei lene oi odigies oti prepei na vroume to xf86config 
> kai stin epilogi gia to pliktrologio na orisoume to elliniko. Pos 
> ginetai afto? Den boresa na katalavo. Esto. Sti syneheia, lene oi 
> odigies oti prepei na anoikso to katallilo arheio etc/x11/XF86config i 
> etc/X11/XF86Config-4. Vrika kai anoiksa to proto apo ta dyo kai ekana 
> tis eksis rythmiseis, symfona me tis odigies.
>
>    XkbKeycodes     "xfree86"
>    XkbTypes        "default"
>    XkbCompat       "default"
>    XkbSymbols      "el"
>    XkbGeometry     "pc"
>    XkbRules        "xfree86"
>    XkbModel        "pc105"
>    XkbLayout       "el"
>    XkbOptions      "grp:ctrl_shift_toggle"

La8os! Ta XFree 4 xrhsimopoioun to arxeio XF86Config-4, to sketo 
XF86Config to agnooun (sthn dianomh ths Mandrake toulaxiston...). 
Prosekse omws! To exei allh syntaksh. Dhladh, an 8ymamai kala (den eimai 
mprosta sto linux box mou twra) einai kapws san
Option "XkbKeycodes" "xfree86"
Option "XkbOptions" "grp:ctrl_shift_toggle"
klp...
Ama anoikseis to arxeio 8a katalabeis, akolou8eis to paradeigma twn 
ypoloipwn grammwn :)

>
> Afisa to pliktrologio 105, giati fantastika oti einai to sosto, eho 
> ena anatomiko. Sti syneheia, olos elpida, ekana epanekinisi kai sto 
> mozilla i sto kword patisa ctrl + shift me tin prosmoni na do 
> ellinika. Apotelesma kanena. Fantazomai oti ta osa ekana periehoun 
> lathi i einai liga, alla afta katafera. Elpizo oti den sas kourasa me 
> to terastio mail mou kai oti boreite pragmati na me voithisete.

Poio praktiko, IMHO, einai na xrhsimopoihseis grp:alt_shift_toggle kai 
na allazeis plhktrologio me aristero_alt + aristero_shift. Ase pou ama 
er8ei o filos sou pou exei synh8isei sta Window$ 8a to brei kai apolyta 
fysiko na grafei ellhnika me alt-shift...

>
> [ Telos, os ysterografo, epeidi mou kanei entyposi, na simioso oti 
> tora da, pano pano sto mozilla, sti ble bara diavazo: ??????? eipa kai 
> ego!! (pou einai o titlos tou minimatos). Fantazomai ta ??? 
> antistihoun se ellinika pou den vlepo. Apo kato diavazo tis entoles 
> anamikta ellinika kai agglika (!!) diladi, File, Edit, View, Eisagogi, 
> Morphopoiisi, Epiloges, Tasks, Help (!!) kai apo kato se apsoga 
> ellinika Apostoli, Diefthinsi, Episynapsi, Apothikefsi. Pos einai 
> dynato misa ellinika kai misa agglika?? ]

Ayto einai poly koulo kai den to exw synanthsei pote ksana, alla me 
dedomeno oti h Mandrake kamia fora kanei "8aymata" me ta settings ths, 
isws (lew isws) na ofeiletai sto oti exeis ta locale san el. Alla pantws 
ayth moy h ypo8esh einai basismenh sthn episthmonikh me8odo ths 
krystallinhs sfairas... ;)

Elpizw na se boh8hsa. To 8ema twn ellhnikwn out-of-the-box akomh 
-dystyxws- den exei antimetwpistei me apolyth epityxia apo kamia dianomh.

>
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> Filika
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Nikolaos Dionysopoulos
Student of Mechanical Engineering @ AUTh
<nikosdion at in.gr> - http://www.sledge81.cjb.net