Open source in goverment

[Aris Sotiropoulos]

> Thodoris Tsokos tsokos at mail.ntua.gr
> Tue Sep 3 11:26:01 2002
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> On Tue, 3 Sep 2002, Athanasios Sidiropoylos wrote:
> 
> > Basika... oi plagioi dromoi opos tous orizeis... einai arketa argoi.
> An
> > perimenoume diladis ta panepistimia na alajoun prota ayta kai na
> baloun
> > pantou linux BSD k.t.l. kai meri na bgoun sthn paragogoi oi
> fitites.....
> > feje mou kai glistrisa. to 2099 kai an. Mexri totes to kostos
> > metapidishs 8a einai yperbolika megalo. Bebeos kai xriazete kai
aytos
> o
> > dromos. An den yparxoun sxoles pou na bgaloun kapoious pou na jeroun
> apo
> > linux kai Unix.... totes... poios 8a ma8ei kai ston geniko gramatea
> tis
> > kolopetinitsas pws 8a anigei to star office gia na grapsei ekino to
> > pistopoihtiko kai pws 8a kanei login gia n anijei ekino to mitroo
> arenon
> > gia na dei ayto pou 8elei kai egw den jerw th allo 8a xriastei. Alla
> > mazi me ayton ton dromo 8a prepei na prospa8isoume kai san aytonomoi
> > energoi polites ayths ths xoras alla kai san silogos (xmmm prepei
> kapote
> > na 8ymi8w na graftw ki egw e ??) na enimerosoume katarxas aytous pou
> > eklgegisan gia na diaxiristoun ta 8emata mas.
> >
> > Ta open formats einai ena must kai einai kati pou mporei na ginei
> AMESA.
> > Dixos kan na xriastei na alajei to litourgiko sistima se oute ena
> > mixanima se olh thn epikratia. Parola ayta kai aytos o dromos exei
> > kapoio kostos. Giati... 8a prepei pali na ekpedeytoun oloi sto pws
as
> > poume 8a bgaloun ayto to kimeno tis prokirijhs pou 8a anartisoun
sthn
> > istoselida tou ypourgiou oxi sto "dimofiles" doc alla sto anixto
> format
> > pou 8a mporei na diabasei kai o poio ftoxos linuxas pou den exei ta
> > fragka na skaei ston Bill Gates ka8e tris kai ligo mia katostarou
gia
> > anaba8miseis (neo sindetira me ayjimenh texnith nohmosinh apo ton
> > proigoumeno tou word ekdoshs 2000 leme twra mia anaba8mish).
> >
> 1-2 skepseis sta parapano:
> 	* einai aparadekto se sxolh mhxanikon H/Y - milao gia th dikia
> mou
> toulastixon sto emp - na exei sto ergasthrio ton "Leitourgikon
> Sistimaton
> kai H/Y"
>
to_super_psarotiko_diktyo_me_cluster_pagosmias_pantetas_vravevmeno_apo_t
> o_sindesmo_seismopljkton_
> kai oi metaptyxiakoi pou to eftia3an na to paizoun moures me ta XP
tous.

File Thodori,
Auta pou les me aforoun proswpika mias kai eftia3a to cluster gia to
opoio
milas (http://pdsg.cslab.ece.ntua.gr) to opoio exei diktya diasyndeshs
SCI, Myrinet, GbE kai FastEthernet. Epishs exw windows XP
ston ypologisth mou sto Polytexneio. Sto spiti mou exw mono windows 98
SE :)
Kapou exw kai ena 8ameno RH, alla ...  den bariesai :)

Esy poy eisai linux-as, prepei na katalabaineis oti oi symfoithtes sou
poy mou stelnoun thn askhsh tous se morfh .doc, 8a me pare3hghsoun an
tous
pw oti thn dexomai mono se .ps. Synepws gia na ta exw kalytera me olous,
exw
windows XP. Etsi kai .xls mporoun na mou stelnoun alla kai .tex h' .dvi.
Kanenas den menei me to parapono. 

8a se parakalousa otan milas kai to ergasthrio mas na anafereis kai tis 
selides sto Diadiktyo opou kapoios mporei na ma8ei gia mas.
http://www.cslab.ece.ntua.gr kai http://pdsg.cslab.ece.ntua.gr

> 
> 	* einai aparadekto se alla ergasthria pou xrhsimopoiountai
> paketa
> e3omoioshs diktyou pou einai proto-kataskevasmena gia UNIX-like
> sisthmata
> na xrhsimopoiountai kato apo se mia
> palakismenh_den_3ero_ego_metafora_gia_win...! oi idioi oi
metaptixiakoi
> otan zitaga pou mporo na katevaso to paketo, mou elegan ..."distixos
den
> iparxei gia windows, mono gia linux...", les kai einai to linux shmera
> kamia platforma pou xrhsimopoieitai sto x-panepisthmio ths taganika
ston
> ENIAC pou exoun ekei, kai den mporo na to vro....!...afto
poios??...enas
> metaptixiakos H/Y, ston tomea ton diktyon...!!!
> 
> 	* einai aparadekto na mh ginetai epishmos protroph-parakinhsh
> gia
> th xrhsh Linux-sistimatos, paramono sto 4o etos sto ma8hma ton
> OS!!!...dhladh an den se troei ligo, xrhsimopoieis win gia 3 xronia,

Mprabo loipon sto ma8hma kai sto ergasthrio twn OS :)
(http://www.cslab.ece.ntua.gr/courses/compsyslab/)
 
> exeis
> sini8isei se Visual Studio, Office, Notepad, Spice kai ola ta sinafh,
> kai
> otan xreiastei gia thn ergasia na grapseis 2-3 scriptakia, fonazeis
ena
> sinfoithth sou pou asxoleitai, na sou valei sthn gonia tou diskou
> Mandrake
> 8.2 gia na mhn polykourasteis ki olas, kai meta ta vgazeis giati ta
60GB
> tou diskou de sou ftanoun gia ta MP3 kai tis tainies pou katevazeis me
> to
> laptop sou kai ta winXP - me tis
>
super_aftomates_ri8miseis_gia_aftomath_egatastash_se_diktyo_...)....:-).
> ..
> (kala an th diavasete afth th frash me mia anasa kerdizete ena dorean
> antigrafo winXP me to SP1, kai spasmena...!...:-)..)...

Exeis dikio, alla o tropos pou ta les einai periergos.
Epishs, den katalabaineis oti oi metaptyxiakoi prospa8oun na kanoun th
douleia tous oso pio apodotika mporoun. Kai mhn 3exnas oti prin liga
xronia autoi oi metaptyxiakoi htan symfoithtes sou :)

> 
> 	* einai aparadekto ( kai telos), na vgainoun oi askhseis sto web
> se .doc, akoma kai askhseis gia programmatismo - na po oti htan tou
> spice
> - .

Afou .doc 3erei o an8rwpos, .doc 8a grapsei. An h3ere LaTeX 8a egrafe
se LaTeX. An omws dwsei thn askhsh se .dvi 'h se .ps, meta 8a er8oun
500 foithtes enas-enas kai 8a rwtane pws 8a doun to .ps. Gia na mhn
yparxei tetoio problhma h askhsh bgainei se .doc.

> 
> Afta eixa na po, pairno to mpogalakia mou kai thn kano....
> Sorry gia tis makroskeleis protaseis, elpizo na diavazontai...
> 
> 

H katastash sucks. An exeis anhsyxies, ela na tis syzhthsoume.
Idiaitera gia tetoiou eidous anhsyxies pou anafereis sto gramma sou,
eimaste anoikta olh mera :)

-Aris Sotiropoulos
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