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[Nikolaos Kefalas]

Yannis Kotsinos wrote:

> Twra milas kalytera. Alla parakatw 8a ta xalaseis pali, eimai sigoyros :-)
> Ayto akribws einai to 8ema, to site na einai swsta sxediasmeno, balanced,
> leitoyrgiko, grhgoro kai sebomeno to platform independent toy Internet
> *prosbasimo se oloys*. O designer den exei kamia sxesh me ayta o an8rwpos,
> exei mia maketa sto myalo toy kai an einai kalh ayto einai to megisto poy
> zhtas apo ayton. Twra an mia etaireia sthrizei oloklhro to site epanw se
> ayton, mhn biasteis toso na ton kathgorhseis.

Auto arkibos prospa8o na po , shmera o ka8enas douleyei se ena
epipedo afairetikothtas , h dimiourgeia selidon HTML me diafora
paketa , den diaferei poly me thn dhmiourgia para8yrikon efarmogon
me mia Visual Glossa , den einai anagkh o ka8enas na xerei to brisketai
apo kato , na xerei ka8e idiotropia kai paraxenia px ths HTML ,ton
Windows, Xwindows klp , den ton endiaferei alloste , mporei sthn periptosh tou
grafista-Web-Designer klp ta pragmata na einai kapos
trabhgmena giati o An8ropos mporei na mhn exei idea apo ypologistes auto einai
8ema genikhs paidias , as to frontisoun ta sxolia auto , tosa programata
exoplismou sxolion me ypologistes yparxoun ,edo symfono me apolyta me 8anash
alla pisteyo oti  o FANATISMOS BLAPTEI SE OPIODHPOTE TOMEA gia auto den mporo na
katalabo orismenes apopseis tou .

> kai asxeto alla  500 kai 600 na toys peis den pairnoyn kan oi sobares
> etaireies gia static selides, den pa na eisai kai o pikasso  ths html tosa
> den 8a soy dwsei oyte syllekths ;-)
> To megisto kase gia ena freelancer einai ante mexri 200.000 kai kapoios poy
> 8a zhthsei tosa 8a dwsei ta 100.000 se ena ISP gia na pai3ei h selida. Mhn
> 3egeliesai. Kamia sobarh etaireia den poylaei design, oses 8eloyn na
> sebontai ton eayto toys poylane efarmoges, giati oi efarmoges exoyn support
> kai an 8eleis na eisai biwsimos apo ekei perimeneis na bgaleis lefta oxi
> trwgwntas 1 mhna gia na sxediaseis ena site poy 8a ikanopoihsei ola ta
> goysta. Opote to design erxetai se deyterh moira akoma kai an milame gia
> static selides. Na sto 8esw alloiws gia na hremhseis kai na mhn zhleyeis ;-)
> :
>
> 3ereis posa kahmena paidia ayth th stigmh eite nomizoyn, eite spoydazoyn,
> eite oneireyontai na ginoyn web-designers trwgwntas to paramy8i olwn aytwn
> twn idiwtikwn sxolwn poy 8eloyn na toys ta paroyn poylwntas creativity se 5
> eykola ma8hmata ??? 3ereis oti se mia etaireia xreiazetai 1 designer, 5
> programmers kai 5 sysadmins???

>
>
> Asta ta paidia exoyn polla empodia mprosta toys mhn ta zorizeis toso....
>

Tora prosgio8hkame sthn pragmatikotha , den mporeis na fantasteis posous
gnorizo pou teleiosane sxoles opos AKTO klp , kai tous
exoun parei Diafhmistikes etairies kai pairnoun 150000 to mhna kai
me thn apeilh oti ama den 8eletai perimenoun kai alloi apexo ?
Xereis posoi pane kai spoudazoun se diafora IEK kai ma8ainoun
pragmata pou praktika mporei na pas na ta ma8eis kai monos arkei
apla na asxolhse , Edo einai to shmeio pou ta panepistimia 8a eprepe na
diaferoun tora to an diaferoun h oxi einai allo 8ema .


> HAH! 3ereis ti refresh rate exoyn oi o8ones stis perissoteres doyleies???
> 3ereis poses aspirines prepei na pareis gia na to 3eperaseis??? na mh soy pw
> lsd gia na ri3eis thn analysh toy matioy soy  wste na taytistei me ta 53 hz
> kai na mhn to antilambanesai...
>
> > πές με ρομαντικό, αλλά εγώ βλέπω μια όχι ισορροπημένη κατάσταση. Εσύ
> > βλέπεις πως το Dreamweaver είναι καλύτερο από το frontpage. Δηλαδή, τί
> > είχαμε τί χάσαμε ???
>
> oxi apla soy lew oti blepeis ta pragmata me thn proswpikh soy apopsh kai
> arneisai na deis th genikoterh eikona. Se tetoio epipedo den 8a elega oti
> diafwnoyme. Se epipedo ergasias omws eisai anagkasmenos na leitoyrgeis mesa
> se mia norma eite soy aresei eite oxi. Kai romantiko den se eipa
> ypotimhtika, alla akoygesai perissotero enthusiast se kapoia 8emata para
> katastalagmenos. Den yparxei tipota kako se ayto, prose3e mono giati yparxei
> megalh pi8anohta na 3enerwseis xontra sto mellon. Egw soy eyxomai to
> anti8eto :-)
>
> katalhgwntas,
>
> egw pisteyw oti den ftaei kaneis me thn stenh ennoia toy oroy. An 8a epel8ei
> kapoia allagh ayth 8a einai apo thn ay3hsh toy epipedoy twn xrhstwn epanw se
> ayta ta 8emata. Otan ginei ayto, tote kai oi etaireies 8a anadiar8rwsoyn tis
> prosferomenes yphresies toys gia thn kalypsh ths diaforopoihmenhs zhthshs...
> (na ti soy kanei mia la8os epilogh sta 17 soy...)

Para polloi pou 8elane na asxolh8oun me ypologistes katalhxane perasane kai
teleiosane tmhmata pou mono sxesh den exoun me ypologistes ,eite apo thn piesh
ton geneon eite apo to exetastiko systhma pou apla katanemei tous ypopshfious se
diafores sxoles analoga me to ba8mo  , kai to tragiko einai oti kapoios mporei
na teleiosei thn sxolh kai praktika na mhn exei parei kan tis aparaithtes
gnoseis tou antikeimenou pou spoudaze auto einai krima toulaxiston ,apla
pernontas ta ola sto podi .Telika parathroume to fainomeno ta misa tmhmata sto
telos na exoun mia katey8ynsh gia kapoia exidikeysh stous ypologistes klp blepe
(Fysiko,Ma8hmatiko) klp .Den kathgoro to exetastiko systhma den einai dynaton na
pane oloi se mia sxolh .

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NKef (Kefalas Nikolaos) <nkef at otenet.gr>
Studying Electrical & Computer Engineering @ UPatras