Comparing apples & oranges (was jsp vs php)

[Yannis Kotsinos]

> Pote de me endiefere kai toso h 'security' pleyra toy zhthmatos,
> toylaxiston apo ayth thn optikh gwnia. Epishs pote moy den katalaba
> thn olh fasaria poy eixe ksespasei prin apo liga xronia sxetika me ta
> cookies poy 'pi8anon na periexoun FRIXTA KAI BRWMERA
> BAKTHRIA AN8RAKA'.

to sygkekrimeno gia mena exei na kanei kyriws me to privacy (o ntoros
dhladh) para me to security. Den enoxlei ton typical window user na
serfarei me 137, 138 wide open, alla ton enoxlei an kapoios mporei na
apodei3ei oti x8es to brady katebaze tsontes h cracks pali. pffffffttt...
siga to pragma, dystyxws den exw dei akoma kanena ellhniko periodiko na
asxoleitai sovara px. me to spyware (an kai eikazw, twra pairnw mono to
linux journal :-) poy akoma kai ston idio tomea toy privacy einai poly
xeirotero. Isws giati etsi 8a apestrefe agorastiko koino fysika. An kai
ayto pali 8a enoxlhsei toys perissoteroys ellhnes oxi gia 8ema security,
alla mpas kai anakalypsei kapoios ta 4Gb cracked software poy exoyn sto
sklhro toys. Probatakia... Thn wra poy anhsyxoyn gia ta cookies kapoios
katebazei anenoxlhtos apo to sklhro toys.

> Oute pote eida kanenan na
> prospa8ei na ektelesei ena cookie sthn client-side. Kata kairous
> yphrksan merika krousmata epi8esewn se servers me diafores
> texnikes embedding, toy styl "bla bla ; SELECT credit.card.number
> FROM user.database" (think SQL). Ayta omws
> einai ka8ara problhmata kakou kai aperiskeptou parsing user-given
> dedomenwn.

Edw anaferomoyn perissotero se data consistency dhladh sto security ths
perissyloghs dedomenwn prin to transaction (poios 8anashs dhladh). Den
mporeis na empisteyteis me8odoys opws ta cookies efoswn o xrhsths mporei
na exei prosbash apey8eias se ayta gia na trabh3eis stoixeia sthn efarmogh
soy. Oyte se javascript elegxo, oyte se hidden inputs (siga to hidden),
kai pros 8eoy oxi ston elegxo poy 8a kanei h bash soy!!!. Edw kapoios
mporei na steilei request parapoihmenh forma kai wannabe-microsoft zend
prospa8ei na mas peisei oti oi strong typed languages soy trwne wra kai
einai dyskoles gia toys designers poy 8eloyn na kanoyn guestbook me
flash... Den eimai tsiraki kanenos, alla gi' ayto alla3a ton titlo, allo
php & mySql kai allo J2EE. Nomizw dystyxws pws polloi gyrisane sto open
source telika oxi gia na to beltiwsoyn, alla giati *barioyntai* na
grapsoyn kati diko toys. Bebaia, pali den eixa elegxo gia
HasBrainException ricudis... sorry... h synh8eia blepeis :-(

> To allo pragma poy den katalaba pote moy, einai giati sto sygkekrimeno
> xwro twn computeradwn - kai sxedon apokleistika ekei - h *gnwsh* poy
> exei kapoios sygxeetai me thn *kakh* xrhsh ayths ths gnwshs. Yphrksan
> diaforoi poy kata kairous biasthkan na xarakthrisoun atoma (metaksy twn
> opoiwn kai emena) "epikindynoys" aplws kai mono epeidh tyxainei na exw
> kapoies gnwseis, pragma poy to briskw eksairetika hli8io ws nootropia.
> Oi giatroi gnwrizoyn POLY pio epikindyna pragmata, giati toys
> empisteyomaste sxedon tyfla?

Epikyndinh sthn pragmatikothta einai h agnoia, kai akoma perissotero h
hmima8eia synodeyomenh apo kriseis anasfaleias. An kapoios 8a pei to
ricudi epikyndino toylaxiston exei th stoixeiwdh diaygeia na
antilambanetai th diafora toys. Egw 8a parathroysa oti oi perissoteroi mas
lene kollhmenoys. To pc einai gia games. Oi gynaikes einai gia phdhma.
Ougk. Pantws genika opoios empisteyetai kapoion sxedon tyfla einai a3ios
ths moiras toy. Kai mhn paraponiesai, to exw akoma krathmeno to .procmail
filtraki poy proteines

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hehehe, eleges??? ;-)

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