Gia na sovareytoume...

Alexios Chouchoulas alexios at vennea.demon.co.uk
Sun Jun 17 14:51:01 EEST 2001


On Sat, 16 Jun 2001, Christos Ricudis wrote:

Gia na arxisoume:

OBLinux: H apolyth diaskedash. Pws na xtiseis ton gcc ws cross-compiler. To
exw kanei gia i386 pros m68k-sun3-sunos411 kai gia m68k-palmos-coff. Twra to
kanw kai gia sparc-linux. Kai fysika, o egkefalos mou exei mplokarei tis
alles dyo, eskairetika endiaferouses empeiries apo to sok.

Den pistevw na exei kanenas enan gcc xtismeno ws crosscompiler pou na trexei
se i386 kai na paragei binaries gia sparc-linux;


...And Now For Something Completely Different.

> Hello Alexios!
> 
>   On 16 Jun 01, Alexios Chouchoulas wrote to All with subject "Re: Gia na
> sovareytoume...":
> 
>  AC>   Kai mia kai milame gia palia mhxanhmata, molis teleiwsa thn
>  AC> basikh egkatastash Debian s'ena Sun SPARCstation IPX (32 Mb RAM, 200 Mb
>  AC> HDD [3]). Tou phre 4 wres (236 lepta [4]) na kanei compile ton 
>  AC> kernel tou.
> 
> Den gnwrizw poio einai to paliotero unix-capable mhxanhma moy, mia kai
> sxhmatizoun ena swro ton opoio prepei na kanw pop gia na dw manufacturing
> dates

  Xm, (skeftetai [0]):

  (1) Terak 8510/a. LSI-11/03, 28 kw RAM, (1..4) x 8" Shugart FDDs, 5 Mb
      Winchester optional. Trexei UNIX oso kai ola ta PDP-11 (kommenh ekdosh
      giati den exei MMU). ~1977.

  (2) Sun 3/160. 68020, 16.67 MHz, 24 Mb RAM, 160 Mb HDD. SunOS 4.1.1,
      NetBSD 1.5 (den trexei giati den anagnwrizei ton SCSI "host adapter"
      (mia 6U VME karta gemath PALs kai 74xxx trabhgmenh apo ena Sun 2/120).
      1984.

  (3) Diafora 8088, 8086, 286, 386 klp pou mporoun na trexoun Minix, Xenix
*(mpliax), BSD, Linux kouloupou. 1981 [1] - 1991.

  (4) Sun SPARCstation IPX, 36 Mb RAM, 1+1.3 Gb HDDs, Debian Linux. Can you
      say 'honeypot'?

  Ta alla (Sun SS4, SS5, AMD K6/Duron PCs klp de metrane, einai poly
prosfata).



> to pio argo pantws einai sigoura enas Mac LCII - ena severely
> underpowered mhxanhma me ton 680LC30/16mhz kai 12, dhladh 10 MB RAM. Katafera
> na shkwsw X over NetBSD s'ayto to mhxanhma, kai einai ekplhktiko na blepeis ta
> para8yra na zwgrafizontai sthn o8onh. 

  W nai. Den exw tolmhsei na treksw X sto Sun 3/160 (idio configuration, me
ligh parapanw mnhmh). Enas basikos logos einai oti to trexw me disabled
framebuffer (elleipsh Type 3 plhktrologiou kai othonhs [4]).

  Panta frikarei ton kosmo otan tous lew oti to mavro kibwtio pou sthrizei
to grafeio mou sth gwnia einai (a) ypologisths, (b) exei thn idia
ypologistikh isxy me to Palm IIIx mou.

  Xm, erwthsh: O Mac LC II exei 68020, etsi den einai; O dikos sou einai
upgraded; H mhpws eixe *panta* 680LC30 kai o epeksergasths den exei MMU;
Exei o aderfos mou ena tetoio, einai glykytato mhxanaki.


> OBObsoleteHardware

  Den tha prepe na einai s/ObsoleteHardware/Linux/;

> Prosfata apekthsa dyo COAX 3270 terminals.

  Giati; Exm, ase kalytera, egw giati exw Sun 3/160; [5]


> Einai apolytws
> adynaton na ta syndeseis opoydhpote allou ektos apo ena IBM
> mainframe/minicomputer.

  H protash sou einai radundant apo th stigmh pou aneferes to magiko arithmo
"3270".


> Exei kanenas kanena sxetika compact S/39 h AS/400 na moy xarisei? H akoma
> kalytera, ena R/39 - full S/39 implementation on a MCA card.

  Oxi mono eisai mazoxisths, eisai kai epikindynos mazoxisths. An eixa IBM
me onoma pou periexei ton substring "S/3" den tha to paradexomoun. :-)  Kai
mono pou skeftomai 3270, S/360, S/390, klp, anatrixiazw. Akoma kai o oros
"MCA" mou fernei elafres anatrixiles. SNA! SNA! SNA! :-)


[0] Exoume ksanakanei old hardware dick size wars, etsi den einai;
[1] IBM 5150 [2], 8088/4.66 MHz 64 kb RAM, 2x 160 kb FDD, thyra kasetofwnou.
    Trexei Minix. Skotwnei perastikous an to petakseis apo to parathyro,
    XWRIS na pathei tipota (me arketa makria mpalanteza synexizei na trexei
    Minix ki afou pesei).
[2] AKA IBM Personal Computer.
[3] Recursion. See [3].
[4] An kai twra mporw na xrhsimopoihsw mia apo tis alles Sun othones kai ena
    Type 4/5 plhktrologio an ftiaksw adaptorakia, alla bariemai...
[5] Xazh erwthsh, to apanthsa hdh: sthrizei to grafeio mou. :-)

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